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To: LowCountryJoe

Look, you cannot use your claiming a memory of having read an article 15 years ago as a source, you refuse to back off of it so you now own it, you are claiming that 8% of the military are homosexuals and you are lying, it isn’t true and it is ridiculous to try and sell that smear here at FR.

“USA Today, in its April 15, 1993 issue published the following statistics from a Planned Parenthood/Alan Guttmacher Institute study:
Only 2.3% of males ages 20 to 39 said they had experienced a same-sex relationship in the past decade. Only 1.1% said they were exclusively gay.

A 1989 U.S. survey indicated that no more than 6% of adults had any kind of same-sex experience. Less than 1% said they were exclusively gay.

A 1992 French study found that only 1.4% of men and 0.4% of women said they had any same-sex contact in the past five years.

In 1991, the National Opinion Research Center (NORC) provided data indicating that of the 6% who have ever experienced same-sex relations, the number of currently active homosexuals (at that time) was .06-0.7%. The source for this is: T.W. Smith, Planning Perspectives 23, May/June 1991).
The Wall Street Journal shed more light on the 10% urban legend in its March 31, 1993 issue:

A survey conducted by the Minnesota Adolescent Health Survey (1986-86) of public school students indicated that only 0.6% of boys and 0.2% of girls identified themselves “mostly or 100% homosexual”-which is less than one percent!

In Canada, a 1988 survey of first-year college students under 25 indicated that 98% were heterosexual; 1% bisexual; and 1% homosexual. (Source: King, et al. Canada, Youth and AIDS Study, Kingston, Ontario: Queen’s University.) “


150 posted on 07/26/2009 3:41:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Look, you cannot use your claiming a memory of having read an article 15 years ago as a source...

I can and I did. ...you refuse to back off of it so you now own it, you are claiming that 8% of the military are homosexuals...

Why would I back off? I'm claiming that its plausible. I do not know what the actual percentages are but I believed what I had read and still believe that that's probably close to the number. Though I am willing to check out the studies and surveys that you've discussed. None of this topic of homosexuality is important to me though. I think the focus that SoCons have on gay issues, rather than limited government issues, isn't particulary helpful to the conservative cause. Tell me, do you honestly care more about being an anti-homosexual crusader rather than a crusader for less government spending and less socialistic policies that are generated out of congress. Because voters with gay and lesbian family members that may lean conservative might be turned off by the crusading.

151 posted on 07/26/2009 3:55:30 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: ansel12
Interesting. But the surveys are 15-20 years old. I'd be interested in seeing more current ones. Have the numbers shifted in any way - down or up? Has social acceptance driven those numbers up? Or has an increase (if any) remained within the margin that one might expect of people that might have lied due to discomfort or fear of outing themselves suddenly being honest about it? One also wonder what national differences might be trackable and worth noticing.

Sorry. I'm sure you don't have polls about all of these. Mostly thinking aloud in response to your comment.
190 posted on 07/27/2009 1:24:34 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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