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What I find hilarious is that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is the guy that facilitated getting these "blue dogs" elected in the first place! Priceless!!
1 posted on 07/25/2009 5:21:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Boy, anyone who lives in a state where a Blue Dog Democrat serves needs to make sure they know we are behind them and to continue the resistance. You know the RAT party leaders are going to be pressuring and threatening them with everything they’ve got.


2 posted on 07/25/2009 5:25:25 PM PDT by bigbob
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bump


3 posted on 07/25/2009 5:26:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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Their main objection is its $1.75 trillion-dollar price tag.

That amount is in Congress froot-poop dollars. The real price tag will probably be that much EVERY YEAR.

4 posted on 07/25/2009 5:27:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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If the Blue Dogs keep on the hunt, then Obama Care will never hunt!

Here's just some of the stuff in this bill. Follow the link below to download the entire PDF.

Section 123 Page 30: A government Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend what treatments and benefits are available. Once accepted and adopted by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, there is no appeal.

Section 141 & 142 Page 42: Establish a "Health Choices Commissioner" appointed by the Prresident who will establish qualified plan standards for the insured, establish a "Health INsurance Exchange", will administer "Health Insurance Credits" and determin who is eligible, will ensure compliance, conduct audits, administer penalites and remedies.

Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document as is understood to include immigration status.

Section 1173A a-2-D Page 58: Calls for a National Health Plan Beneficiary Identification Card for every person and the ability to determine a persons indivual financial responsibility and eligibility prior to, or at the time of service.

Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds tranfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconcilliation of health care payment.

Section 164 Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize a retiree reinsurance health fund up to 10 billion dollars to assist participating employment-based plans (unions, community organizers, etc.) with the cost of providing health benefits to retirees and to eligible spouses, surviving spouses and dependents of such retirees

Section 294 b-7 Page 91: Government mandates culturally and linguistically appropriate communication and health services for all.

Section 205 a-1 Page 95-96: The Government will etsablish an outreach program to inform, educate, and enroll participants, directed at "vulnerable" populations and to be accomplished in person at "community locations", by mail, telephone, or electronically. Tailor made for ACORN and Americorps.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

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By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

5 posted on 07/25/2009 5:34:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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But they are Democrats and the Democrats do not take well to people such as the Blue dogs. They are being threatened by Rahm, Pelosi and others that they will lose money for their districts.


7 posted on 07/25/2009 5:39:19 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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This is all BS. Blue Dogs are not conservative.

The ACU ratings for these so-called conservatives average somewhere in the mid 20s. Ross has a lifetime score of 38.

The most RINO liberal republican checks in at the high 40 mark.

Enough said.


8 posted on 07/25/2009 5:43:34 PM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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C’mon Blue Dogs - you will never fit in with the extreme lefties who control the Democrat Party.

But there would be a sweet home for you as Republicans.

Change your affiliation and get rid of your allegiance to the bitch Pelosi, Waxman, Conyers and the rest of those loonies.

There are plenty of good committee assignments you could have as Republicans.

It will only hurt for a very little while, then you will feel terrific.


9 posted on 07/25/2009 5:45:31 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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I still don’t trust blue-dogs. Republicans are bad enough when they get to Washington. All the bluedogs need is some military base or Gov’t. hospital built in their district, and they’ll sell their soul.


10 posted on 07/25/2009 5:48:24 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg">)
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Someone should check this but I believe there is a nod somewhere toward "undocumented" people not eligible.

Which simply means that the intent is to subsequently "document" illegal aliens, i.e. amnesty (which of course would be documented), thus incorporating illegal aliens through legal deceit into the national system.

In other words, this bill, in concert with a subsequent amnesty one, is an end run around the wishes of the American electorate (who overwhelmingly refute amnesty).

This is the way lawyers work, this is the way Rahm Emmanuel works, this is the way Leftists work, and tragically this is what the Council on Foreign Relations, with BO as front man, has planned.

11 posted on 07/25/2009 5:53:38 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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We're a group of faux conservative, common-sense bureaucratic Democrats

They are there to collect their gov't check, benefits, and pension and reap the reward of kickbacks. They really stand for nothing and this forces them to choose. Typical bureaucrats. They voted for the extreme Peloser and the Styme-useless.

18 posted on 07/25/2009 7:20:13 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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The correct term is

PELOSI POODLE

Dont assume they will stop Obama's bad bills. They didnt stop cap-and-tax, they voted for Obama's budget, and they helped vote for the Stimulus boondoggle. They are just guny shy now that Obama's poll numbers are dipping.
21 posted on 07/25/2009 8:29:06 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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For all their high-minded rhetoric the issue hasn’t got squat to do with principles.

The Blue Dogs got elected in conservative districts and they are not about to commit electoral hara-kiri by nose-thumbing their voters for the sake of the Big “O”.


23 posted on 07/25/2009 10:42:18 PM PDT by sinanju
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