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1 posted on 07/25/2009 6:18:33 AM PDT by NYer
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The group predicted that by 2050 China will have just 1.6 working-age adults to support every person aged 60 and above, a steep decline from the 7.7 adults per pensioner back in 1975, just a few years before China instituted the one-child policy.

It's simple math, really.

Prediction: China will enforce a policy of mandatory euthanasia for those who reach age 60. It's simple math, really ;-)

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2 posted on 07/25/2009 6:20:45 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Yet the fewer numbers are exactly what has Shanghai worried, because the city is faced with not enough young men and women to sustain its aging population.


Serves ‘em right.


3 posted on 07/25/2009 6:20:58 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Control the teleprompter, control the agenda!)
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One child per couple leads to more senior citizens leads to bad ratio of pensioners to workers. This is in China.

Roe v. Wade leads to more senior citizens leads to bad ratio of pensioners to workers (Social Security). This is in the United States.

Either we get rid of Roe v. Wade, or get rid of Social Security... or both.

4 posted on 07/25/2009 6:27:58 AM PDT by Frohickey
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Just import guest workers like we do here and counsel your elders on end of life decisions.

A regular riot of an idea right!?

5 posted on 07/25/2009 6:28:53 AM PDT by poobear
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So, there will be more sex in China now! I thought they were trying to REPRESS that!


6 posted on 07/25/2009 6:40:41 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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They fell for the Malthusian snake oil and are paying for it.


7 posted on 07/25/2009 6:43:15 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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Ha! The problem is worse than that. The Chinese, faced with only being allowed one child, often aborted or murdered after birth millions of girls. The Chinese adult population before long will be severely skewed with literally millions of men for whom there are no women available.

India starts to look pretty tempting about then. Regional war becomes a near certainty. Epidemic rape and theft of women within China is another strong possibility.

It isn’t nice to fool with Mother Nature.


8 posted on 07/25/2009 6:49:33 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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"Shanghai Starts Backpedaling One-Child Policy in Face of Demographic Implosion "

"The group predicted that by 2050 China will have just 1.6 working-age adults to support every person aged 60 and above, a steep decline from the 7.7 adults per pensioner back in 1975, just a few years before China instituted the one-child policy."

The Chinese, however, have forgotten about another plausible and viable option that achieves BOTH population control and maintains a healthy demographic balance, meaning a good ratio of youths to the elderly.

They can merely ban getting old unless a person gets a permit and can prove they are a contributing member of society. No more sitting on porches and dandling grandchildren on your knee, or puttering around in your garden. If you don't get your permit, you shuffle off to the "senior center," say goodbye to your loved ones, and find yourself turned into fertilizer -- which, by the way, is a productive use of your end-of-life status.

Frankly, this is hardly more inhumane than forced abortions and the infanticide that the Chinese bureaucrats sometime resort to, to ensure the one-child policy is enforced.

See? Problem solved. Easy in a godless, totalitarian society.

9 posted on 07/25/2009 6:50:17 AM PDT by tom h
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Communist China knows it all, they don’t need the advice of the illegal underground Roman Catholic Church now, do they?


11 posted on 07/25/2009 7:28:26 AM PDT by m4629 (politically incorrect, and proud of it)
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Perfect example of a useless bureaucrat trying to turn theory into fact without taking human nature into account.


14 posted on 07/25/2009 8:14:20 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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There is a demographic standard for nations, when they reach a certain level of prosperity, which varies between nations, suddenly the birthrate drops to just sustainable or less (below avg. 2.3 children per family.) This just happened a few years ago in Mexico.

In the case of China, it is so large that the rules might be bent. That is, the wealth level in the coastal cities has reached the plateau, but inland hasn’t.

Importantly, while it is very difficult to raise this birthrate, it is easy for government and society to intentionally or otherwise, lower it even further. That is, at this point, when additional pressures of many kinds are put on potential parents, it will convince more of them to either have just one child, or none at all.

High levels of pollution, also common in China, also affect the downward trend. And a serious decrease happens in bad economic times.


16 posted on 07/25/2009 9:42:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I’ve got it! Issue medals to mothers who have extra children!

What? Der Fuehrer already tried it?

Ban abortion and birth control! Force mothers to carry to term and establish state-run orphanages!

What? Ceaucescu already tried it?


18 posted on 07/25/2009 9:54:21 AM PDT by sinanju
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“By 2050, over 438 million Chinese will be over the age of 60.”

Not if they exercise Obama-style health care, where seniors are not provided costly services that would be provided to the young, “productive” members of society.

As we age, one thing or another afflicts us. With proper medical care, most of those afflictions can be overcome and the senior’s life extended. Without proper care, the illness exacerbates and takes the person’s life sooner. Presto! Problem solved.

All China (or the USA) has to do it cut back services to seniors, and it will lessen the burden of the productive young.


23 posted on 07/25/2009 11:28:04 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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The one-child policy made a lot of sense for the ChiCom senior leadership 30 years ago. With one child you have have couples where both work most of their lives. Fewer children mean less resources spent on kids who do not produce goods. This means better living standards for the senior Party members.

Of course, it means things collapse in 50 years, but the ChiCom leadership would be dead, and they didn't care what happened after that. Their computation was that they would reap the benefits, but not be around for when the costs appeared.

26 posted on 07/25/2009 12:41:06 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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They’re welcome to scour the streets of Philly for...Mexicans.


27 posted on 07/25/2009 12:52:20 PM PDT by Stentor (Looking forward to my government mandated future death planning interview.)
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29 posted on 07/25/2009 5:16:12 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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I cannot think of a country, that when this mindset sets in (the night life more important than family life), that it ever reverses.

So, it appears, Shanghai will need to allow a greater migration of people within China (and maybe even outside of China) to immigrate to Shanghai. Migration of young people, that is.

They need to life the restriction in areas where people want to have mulitiple children and then allow them to migrate to Shanghai. And even from surrounding countries such as India, Thailand, N. Korea, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc.

30 posted on 07/26/2009 12:45:57 PM PDT by ponder life
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