Gun Purchase Question (Vanity)

07.24.09 | chickensoup

[Paladin2]

"Ultimately, when the dealer decides it's time to retire or close the business for any other reason, he has to hand over all his records to the Feds. "

Wouldn't many dealers be retiring due to fire, flood or tornado or all of the above?

[Hegemony Cricket]

What if a dealer had to retire because somebody broke in and shredded all his records? Jus’ aksin...

[Nitro]

Wolverines!!

[buccaneer81]

Watch the movie “Red Dawn” and all will become apparent.

Exactly.

"Go to sporting goods store and obtain forms 4473. They will show lists of private ownership."

[agooga]

Hmm... you might be right about that, but I’m not so sure.

How does the DOJ make sure that the “right” person petitions to get his gun back? I’ve gone through this. You fill out a form with basic information and they send you a document entitling you to pick up the firearm.

If they didn’t ALREADY have a record putting YOU and the gun together, then ANYONE could send that form in and claim ownership.

What am I missing?

[Paladin2]

What if the dealer had a retirement party and there was a shredder in the office and the records had a big "Don't shred this pile" sign near them?

"...Mistakes were made...."

[fso301]

Wouldn't many dealers be retiring due to fire, flood or tornado or all of the above?

I don't know about temporary closures. My understanding is the requirement to turn in their records is if they close permanently.

I have heard where in the aftermath of a hurricane or flood, records were "lost".

[Cobra Scott]

What, you think this is voter registration or something? PO boxes are only for Acorn-approved purposes.

[Domandred]

Well depending on what the conversation was if there is guns in a house that is on fire is kind of need to know for firefighters imo.

Though readily being able to pull up information as to exactly what they have is something they shouldn’t be able to do.

[Paladin2]

I could see where the FD might like to know just how many rounds are present and the approximate location of the stash.

[Lurker]

does the government really destroy the information?

No, they don't.

[bruoz]

"Your ffl has to keep the 4473 (the form w/your social security info, “have you ever worked as a hired killer?”, etc.) forever. When they go out of business, the paperwork is forwarded to the BATFE."

Actually the FFL must keep the 4473 for twenty years, after that they can destroy them. Also, entering your SS# on the 4473 is an option, but not required. (I never do.)

[Jeff Gordon]

One gets more thoroughly background checked to buy a shotgun than to become President of the United States.

My wife wants to know why I just burst out laughing.

[Chickensoup]

“Go to sporting goods store and obtain forms 4473. They will show lists of private ownership.”

What does this mean?

[buccaneer81]

“Go to sporting goods store and obtain forms 4473. They will show lists of private ownership.” What does this mean?

Have you ever seen Red Dawn? That's the scene where the Cuban Colonel tells his Russian subordinate to go to the local sporting goods store where they've invaded in Colorado. They get the list of gun purchases to confiscate them.

[Chickensoup]

No, I guess I ought to watch it. is it a book too?

[buccaneer81]

No, just a movie. Made in 1984. You can find it for less than ten bucks at Wal-Mart.

[buccaneer81]