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House healthcare talks break down in anger
The Hill ^ | 7/24/2009 | Jared Allen

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said...

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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; arra; bhohealthcare; bluedogcoalition; bluedogdemocrats; bluedogs; cbc; congress; democrathealthcare; democrats; healthcare; henrywaxman; obama; obamacare; pelosi; rahm; socializedmedicine; waxman
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To: KansasGirl
If that little goblin Waxman has been lying to Democrats in the House, I sure hate to think about what he's been doing to the country.
21 posted on 07/24/2009 1:19:25 PM PDT by mojito
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To: maggief
Poor babies - sounds like they were tied to the whippin' post.

"Sometimes I feel, sometimes I feel,
Like I been tied to the whipping post
Tied to the whipping post,
Tied to the whipping post,
Good lord, I feel like Im dyin."

22 posted on 07/24/2009 1:20:24 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: KansasGirl

the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Save the party? Damn, it’s worse than we think. It’s worse than we imagined. It’s a beautiful thing! LOL


23 posted on 07/24/2009 1:21:20 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I am sure they know, but they aren’t going to say unless they have been told directly to say....


24 posted on 07/24/2009 1:22:04 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: xzins

That is the real problem here. If the vote is close enough, the Democrats will bribe a couple of Republicans and the bill will pass.


25 posted on 07/24/2009 1:22:43 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: KansasGirl
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26 posted on 07/24/2009 1:22:44 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: KansasGirl

Thanks for the update. This is great news.


27 posted on 07/24/2009 1:22:49 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: KansasGirl

“We were lied to!” No kidding really? Well I am shocked I tell you shocked.

Keep it up Nancy and Henry pretty soon the blue dogs will remember where their true loyalties lie —— with the conservatives. Bwahahahahahaha


28 posted on 07/24/2009 1:23:01 PM PDT by the long march
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I just got off the phone with Ike Skelton’s DC office. They profess not to know how my congressman will vote.

I also just got off the phone with my rep. I said, I know that Representative Murphy doesn't care what his constituents think but this is too important to rubber stamp the way he's done every other bill to come before him. I then told the story of the woman from England who flew here for a mammogram because her screening ultrasound didn't qualify her for one in England. Her mom and sister both had breast cancer and she had a lump.

I wonder how these congress people will feel when it's their daughter or granddaughter who is denied a test like this until it is too late.

29 posted on 07/24/2009 1:23:05 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Faith

I just called Dennis Moore, our only Rat Congressman from KS (member of Blue Dogs), and she said he is not decided yet. He always votes with Pelosi though. He said the same thing about cap and trade and then voted with the Rats.

Dennis Moore’s office: (202) 225-2865


30 posted on 07/24/2009 1:23:46 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: xzins
Ellen Tauscher (liberal Democrat from CA-10) resigned last month. so Democrats are down to 254 members.

Her seat won't be filled until November.

31 posted on 07/24/2009 1:24:00 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

All would be at risk in the 2010 election cycle. I am telling ya it wouldn’t be the first time fiscally conservative dems have kicked the powers in the nuts


32 posted on 07/24/2009 1:24:49 PM PDT by the long march
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To: KansasGirl
Good. The Blue Dogs smell change in the wind and they fear for their political lives.

And well they should.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

33 posted on 07/24/2009 1:25:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Harman

Jane Harman??

Pay back is a bitch, eh Nancy?

34 posted on 07/24/2009 1:25:55 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: KansasGirl
“We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Hey, I'll help.

Bwhahahaha!!! I almost said it with a straight face.

35 posted on 07/24/2009 1:26:27 PM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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To: KansasGirl

Good going!


36 posted on 07/24/2009 1:26:49 PM PDT by bcsco (When Obama mentioned shovel ready jobs, I never thought he might be thinking of graves.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

37 posted on 07/24/2009 1:26:54 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: Kenny

I wonder how these congress people will feel when it’s their daughter or granddaughter who is denied a test like this until it is too late.

I hope you’re not that naive. The ruling class will not be covered by this bill. They will retain separate and far superior coverage. Rush has been covering this for days.


38 posted on 07/24/2009 1:27:06 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: KansasGirl

I didn’t call any of the committee members, but I called all the PA Blue Dogs today. All the staffers were very polite and receptive to my call, which was a pleasant change from my calls to Senator Casey’s offices.


39 posted on 07/24/2009 1:27:45 PM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: KansasGirl

Good sign for the Dems to have a total meltdown going into the weekend. Gives us a couple of days to rest up, live well, and prepare ourselves to continue the fight. ObamaCare won’t be going away, but every delay exposes more of the horrors of government-run healthcare to the public and weakens the ultimate chances of passage.


40 posted on 07/24/2009 1:28:08 PM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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