House healthcare talks break down in anger

The Hill ^ | 7/24/2009 | Jared Allen

[KansasGirl]

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said...

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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

[Osage Orange]

I'm sure of your claim....Oklahoma might be running ahead for that prize by a nose.

MOLON LABE

[xzins]

If I recall correctly, Gergen saved Clinton’s presidency in the first year when the wheels were falling off. If he’d stayed away, there would have been no 2d term.

[johncocktoasten]

Rodham-Gergen got the credit, but Dick Morris’s triangulation strategy was what got Clinton back in the game.

[WayneS]

REALISM is not the same thing as cynicism.

;^)

[Beagle8U]

“Waxman will be hunting truffles this summer.”

The snout on that pig can hunt them in winter, under 3 feet of ice and snow!

[Beagle8U]

He stormed out of the meeting with Piglousy because he can see the future. That's why he is called Nostrildamnus.

[barker]

My Rep from Missouri is Emanual Cleaver. No use calling him. He ran a corrupt City Hall as Mayor of Kansas City. He was the ultimate Sergeant Schultz.

[Mrs. Don-o]

BLUE DOG LIST FROM WIKI

Cardoza, Dennis (CA-18)

Carney, Christopher (PA-10)

Chandler, Ben (KY-06)

Childers, Travis (MS-01)

Cooper, Jim (TN-05)

Costa, Jim (CA-20)

Cuellar, Henry (TX-28)

Dahlkemper, Kathy (PA-03)

Davis, Lincoln (TN-04)

Donnelly, Joe (IN-02)

Ellsworth, Brad (IN-08)

Giffords, Gabrielle (AZ-08)

Gordon, Bart (TN-06)

Griffith, Parker (AL-05)

Bart Gordon (D-Tenn) (202) 225-4231

Harman, Jane (CA-36)

Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie (SD)

Hill, Baron (IN-09) (202) 225-5315

Holden, Tim (PA-17)

Kratovil, Jr., Frank (MD-01)

McIntyre, Mike (NC-07)

Marshall, Jim (GA-03)

Matheson, Jim (UT-02) (202) 225-3011

Melancon, Charlie (LA-03) (202) 225-4031

Michaud, Mike (ME-02)

Minnick, Walt (ID-01)

Mitchell, Harry (AZ-05)

Moore, Dennis (KS-03)

Murphy, Patrick (PA-08)

Nye, Glenn (VA-02)

Peterson, Collin (MN-07)

Pomeroy, Earl (ND) (202) 225-2611

Ross, Mike (AR-04) (202) 225-3772

Salazar, John (CO-03)

Sanchez, Loretta (CA-47)

Schiff, Adam (CA-29)

Scott, David (GA-13)

Shuler, Heath (NC-11)

Space, Zack (OH-18) (202) 225-6265

Tanner, John (TN-08)

Taylor, Gene (MS-04)

Thompson, Mike (CA-01)

Wilson, Charles (OH-06)

[xyla1983]

Can anyone on this blog confirm or deny the rumor that the House and Senate health care bills would exempt members of Congress and their staffs from the bills’ provisions? And,if so, can someone point me to the bills’ precise provisions to that effect? Thanks

[1Reader1k]

BREAKING NEWS: Obama government providing the pine boxes, shovels, needles, sanctified (maybe?) ground... As an American, your extremely high tax will pay for (a small tax incentive...or stimulus if you prefer) the burial...and our own children/relatives get to bury us themselves!!! We’ll just leave our dead on the side of the road and let the vultures pick us apart!!! Or toss us in mass graves and cover us with lime as if we’ve got the plague. Why not? Or better yet, this is a great opportunity to use our body parts for God only knows what! Way to go America! You voted him in—get him out!!! Now!!!!!!!!!!

[Osage Orange]

Number one....FR isn't a blog, fwiw.

Here's some links....

http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=50756

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN2tI49_5EI

Decide for yourself.

[Carry_Okie]

They've got to create something meaningless to vote for so that these clowns can claim they tried to fix it and Waxman isn't helping them.