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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate to say it, but this guy has a point. It is readily apparent that neither Obama’s step-grandmother nor the Kenyan ambassador actually claimed that Obama, Jr. was born in Kenya. However, all sorts of birthers with overactive imaginations will claim that they swore affidavits, erected statues, etc., etc., etc..

Some people are so intensely desirous of a magic way to discredit socialism that they suspend disbelief.

In fact, the only way to defeat Obama and his ideology is politically and that involves much, much hard work, not card tricks.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 2:49:31 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: iowamark
Fighting Socialism is indeed hard work. Why do it with one hand tied behind our backs?

Our political enemies have given us a gift - they have put a man who doesn't have an American birth certificate in the White House.

It's time to defend the rule of law and put those who vouched for Obama in prison: however many people (hopefully not you!) appear to be happy to yield another part of the Consititution over to the Socialists.

8 posted on 07/24/2009 3:05:16 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: iowamark

How can you tell? I could barely get through all of the insults hurled by the author which seems to be more to his point.


38 posted on 07/24/2009 4:33:57 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: iowamark
In fact, the only way to defeat Obama and his ideology is politically and that involves much, much hard work, not card tricks

Do you support the Constitution?

If so, why would you oppose pressuring Obama to prove that he is Constitutionally qualified?

Can YOU make a case that he is a Natural Born citizen?

If you cannot then you should be very uncomfortable with his apparent lack of qualifications.

50 posted on 07/24/2009 7:42:28 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: iowamark
I hate to say it, but this guy has a point. It is readily apparent that neither Obama’s step-grandmother nor the Kenyan ambassador actually claimed that Obama, Jr. was born in Kenya. However, all sorts of birthers with overactive imaginations will claim that they swore affidavits, erected statues, etc., etc., etc..

She said he was a "son of the village" according to one translation, and people, starting with the "Anabaptist Bishop," took that and ran with it. After a while it gets stated as a fact, rather than as a questionable interpretation of what she said.

It's a little comical, though: so many people going over the supposed birth certification with a fine tooth comb to prove it a forgery, while nobody bothers to find a Luo speaker to straighten out just what Sarah Obama said or didn't say.

Some people are so intensely desirous of a magic way to discredit socialism that they suspend disbelief.

In fact, the only way to defeat Obama and his ideology is politically and that involves much, much hard work, not card tricks.

True. So far all this is only helping Obama. It allows him to portray his opponents as mired in trivia and conspiracy theories.

It's a brilliant strategy. If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think he planned things that way, not releasing his documents so that we'd get mired in speculation.

One thing about all this: we had a lot of theories about the Clintons as well, but today nobody talks about them. Maybe we should address that -- what was true, what wasn't, what we'll never know, whether we were right or wrong -- before moving on to new conspiracies.

104 posted on 07/25/2009 1:50:53 PM PDT by x
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