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Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing
http://www.rollcall.com ^ | By Jackie Kucinich | By Jackie Kucinich

Posted on 07/22/2009 9:49:47 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: Maelstorm

I have seen in other places this chart is made up? Is it real? I understood initially that it was straight out of the plan...I just wanted to confirm it is real and where is was posted originally before I spread it around.


81 posted on 07/23/2009 4:57:05 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Blu By U; meyer

I try your suggestions. Thanks.


82 posted on 07/23/2009 5:06:44 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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Of course, the story here is the censorship rather than the content... BUT, even on the content:

Democrats argue that the chart depicts a “Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund” that is “simply a recipient of IRS funds, with no outflow. ... This is false.”

The thin red link between the IRS and the HIETF is just that - it has no arrows on either end, therefore it is BOTH an inflow and outflow. It appears to be a holding entity between the IRS and Treasury, where the IRS has a direct output to the Treasury (see bold red line with arrow), AND, at the same time, a way to buffer funds between IRS and Treasure, ushing the HIETF as the buffer.

83 posted on 07/23/2009 5:39:35 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Maelstorm

There’s a plethora of media available. Doesn’t have to just be snail-mail.


84 posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: meyer

They can’t actually, legally (Constitutionally), pass health care reform or cap and tax, either,

or just about ANY policy they’ve implemented since January.

But that’s not going to stop them.

Do you hear ANYONE in Congress questioning the Constitutionality of 0bamacare?


85 posted on 07/23/2009 5:45:50 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Maelstorm

Ah, they don’t read the bills. Surely can’t explain ‘em. But the want to claim there are ‘inaccuracies’ in how Conservatives, who *do* read the bills, communicate.

That’s a rich crock full o’ crap.


86 posted on 07/23/2009 6:10:27 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: Maelstorm

Can the truth not suffer a heated debate?
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Right, the RATs don’t like the truth.

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Are laws to be passed with one eye closed and a nod and no one question them?
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They’d greatly prefer single party rule where no one asks anything.


87 posted on 07/23/2009 6:13:38 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: R0CK3T

The Dems are Fascists...0bama lied and FREE SPEECH died!
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Well said.


88 posted on 07/23/2009 6:16:14 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: Zeppelin

“Ray Charles could make more sense of an electrical circuit diagram than ANYONE could of this Obamanation...”
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Hear, hear!


89 posted on 07/23/2009 6:17:36 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: rfp1234

Perrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect...


90 posted on 07/23/2009 6:19:01 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.

**This is a high volume ping list! (sign of the times)**


91 posted on 07/23/2009 6:23:49 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

What they’ve done is maneuvered the Dems into suppressing a mailing initiated by the Republicans. NOW the Republicans have the Democrats on record using Censorship to stop the real story of the Healthcare issue getting to the people.

Its a masterstroke of political maneuvering!
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Great point! Now they Republicans (read: the Conservatives among ‘em), need to DEMAND, that if this chart is somehow inaccurate, you MUST explain the socialist health care to the people...demand they use flip charts.

This will cause three things.
—The RATS will have to read the bill.
—It’ll publicize the bill and what’s in the bill - and people will actually read about it and try to make sense of it.
—The RATS will either have to explain the bill - which will make things worse for them, or they’ll have to try a ‘cover-up’ which is not a good thing in politics (have you noticed?)


92 posted on 07/23/2009 6:25:28 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
but this health care thing is scaring them to death.

As well it should, because its passage could very literally mean their premature deaths.

93 posted on 07/23/2009 6:49:25 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: Heart of Georgia

>> This is the very reason for the push to get it done now, just like with the so-called stimulus. He thinks once he gets it through, too bad


The reason for all the rush on this, Stimulus etc...is his observation that collective insanity only last so long. The longer people have to think about things the more they will realize that you cannot borrow your way out of debt any more than you can create a trillion dollar entitlement that is “budget neutral”.

It’s a lie. A farce.

Can’t fool all of the people all of the time....


94 posted on 07/23/2009 7:02:04 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Control the teleprompter, control the agenda!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

EXACTLY!! This was the Republicans’ intent as they are sometimes capable of acting intelligently!! Hooray for our team’s goal of eliminating this Obamination!!!


95 posted on 07/23/2009 7:05:31 AM PDT by righteousindignation
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To: Maelstorm

SCREW the democraps, I posted the whole thing on my blog anyway.

We can get the word out either way


96 posted on 07/23/2009 1:26:00 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

” You are missing the point I believe.

Mailings are the last thing the Republicans are worried about, they know they can get this info out with a simple mouse click.

What they’ve done is maneuvered the Dems into suppressing a mailing initiated by the Republicans. NOW the Republicans have the Democrats on record using Censorship to stop the real story of the Healthcare issue getting to the people.

Its a masterstroke of political maneuvering!”
bingo


97 posted on 07/23/2009 2:22:09 PM PDT by Kevin J waldroup ( Go Duncan Hunter 2012)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Let’s turn into community organizers. The Obama team called upon his teams of bloggers to get out there and saturate the internet to help get this Health Care bill passed. We need to do the same. We didn’t do it during the election and the community organizer did a superb job and we ended up with a Marxist in the White House. Let’s roll!

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/how-obamas-internet-campaign-changed-politics/

One of the many ways that the election of Barack Obama as president has echoed that of John F. Kennedy is his use of a new medium that will forever change politics. For Mr. Kennedy, it was television. For Mr. Obama, it is the Internet.

“Were it not for the Internet, Barack Obama would not be president. Were it not for the Internet, Barack Obama would not have been the nominee,” said Arianna Huffington, editor in chief of The Huffington Post.

Mr. Obama used the Internet to organize his supporters in a way that would have in the past required an army of volunteers and paid organizers on the ground, Mr. Trippi said.

“The tools changed between 2004 and 2008. Barack Obama won every single caucus state that matters, and he did it because of those tools, because he was able to move thousands of people to organize.”

Mr. Obama’s campaign took advantage of YouTube for free advertising. Mr. Trippi argued that those videos were more effective than television ads because viewers chose to watch them or received them from a friend instead of having their television shows interrupted.

“The campaign’s official stuff they created for YouTube was watched for 14.5 million hours,” Mr. Trippi said. “To buy 14.5 million hours on broadcast TV is $47 million.”

There has also been a sea change in fact-checking, with citizens using the Internet to find past speeches that prove a politician wrong and then using the Web to alert their fellow citizens.


98 posted on 07/23/2009 2:51:15 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Maelstorm

“In a memo sent Monday to Republicans on the House franking commission, Democrats argue that sending the chart to constituents as official mail would violate House rules”

Do it anyway.


99 posted on 07/23/2009 3:42:23 PM PDT by Grunthor (Does a crowded elevator smell different to midgets?)
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To: Earthdweller; Mad Dawgg
Targeting the Internet and Rush won't get the independents who work every day and don't pay attention to politics.

Dude, you are freaking CLUELESS!

100 posted on 07/23/2009 7:55:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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