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Stealth Care (Obamacare)
CE ^ | July 21, 2009 | Father Frank Pavone

Posted on 07/22/2009 9:32:37 PM PDT by Salvation

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But as Congressman Chris Smith pointed out in a June 26 letter to colleagues in Congress, “Without abortion explicitly excluded from any government mandated or government funded benefits package, abortion will be included. Time and again, bureaucrats and courts have decided that abortion must be included in public health programs unless the Congress explicitly provides otherwise.” That is why explicit exclusions of abortion have been placed in programs like SCHIP and the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan.

Without such an exclusion in health care reform legislation, federal officials would be empowered to mandate coverage of abortion in virtually all health plans; massive federal subsidies would be provided for abortion on demand; an expansion of abortion providers would be required; and at least some state abortion regulations would be nullified.


1 posted on 07/22/2009 9:32:37 PM PDT by Salvation
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Your comments?


2 posted on 07/22/2009 9:33:23 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Your comments?
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Yes, we must defeat these evil ones! Period.


3 posted on 07/22/2009 9:41:06 PM PDT by unkus
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The Catholic Case Against Obamacare
4 posted on 07/22/2009 9:43:10 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

President Obortion is all about abortion...from late term to late life.


5 posted on 07/22/2009 9:47:54 PM PDT by PGalt
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We need the same, grass-roots organized campaign against Obamacare as we did with the FOCA effort. And for every other element of FOCA when they try to piecemeal slip these other initiatives into other bills as well.
6 posted on 07/22/2009 9:50:48 PM PDT by motoman
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Someone suggested starting the red-envelope mailing again. I think they addressed them all to the WhiteHouse and on the back wrote something about this red envelope represents one baby’s life lost in abortion.

I’m sure we can find some threads posted on it on FR.


7 posted on 07/22/2009 10:01:52 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Aha! I found the Red Envelope threads

What do you all think?

8 posted on 07/22/2009 10:04:12 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Among the many reasons - economic, rational, pragmatic - to defeat Obamacare, the moral ought to be topmost. In the case of taxpayer-funded abortions, the moral line could not be more clear.

The evidence of Obama’s relentless, blinkered, leftist ideology could only be more clear if, instead of being merely funded, abortion were mandated. Dare I suggest that maybe that’s just Phase Two.

I would only add to the alarm raised by this thread that the mandatory “advance care counseling” mandated in the bill for the elderly is every bit as much a repudiation of the sanctity of life as is the abortion funding.

Pray, and work, for its defeat.


9 posted on 07/22/2009 10:10:22 PM PDT by PhatHead
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**I would only add to the alarm raised by this thread that the mandatory “advance care counseling” mandated in the bill for the elderly is every bit as much a repudiation of the sanctity of life as is the abortion funding.**

Absolutely!


10 posted on 07/22/2009 10:15:37 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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11 posted on 07/22/2009 10:16:05 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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HEALTHCARE 1

12 posted on 07/22/2009 10:16:39 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Chilling!


13 posted on 07/22/2009 10:21:15 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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Pres Obuma has now gone beyond mere abortion by appointing Princeton Professor, scientist and philosopher, Peter Singer to be his “Director of the Office of Science & Technology Policy” (source: http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-appoints-scary-mad-scientist.html )

This guy actually said that abortion should be allowed up to the age of two years...I don’t think that stretching the term ‘abortion’ to cover murder/infanticide will work...at least not to the average (non-philosopher bioethecist) thinking man...This fellow is a mad man with radical ideas that only another radical- like Obuma- would love...And the Senate approved him on March 19th.(op cit,above)..How’s that for a stealth appointment....

He has many other radical ideas- including the idea that animals should have the same rights as humans.(source: http://www.animal-rights-library.com/texts-m/singer02.htm ) ..So if you are a Mink can you sue if you are turned into a fur coat ?...But 2 year old humans have no rights, especially if they are disabled...

We are getting closer and closer to rock bottom...


14 posted on 07/22/2009 10:32:51 PM PDT by billmor (We the Jury find for the Estate of John Q.Mink and assess $11 Trillion damages against Acme Fur Co)
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They can read “Advanced Care Counseling” in this way: ‘Sorry, but government funds are limited therefore the government will not pay for your medication or treatment since you are over age 70..’ How could anyone in good conscience be a ‘counselor’ and bring such terrible news to an older person ?...

We no longer have a democracy...We now have a pagan government hell bent on destroying this country...We must fight back...


15 posted on 07/22/2009 10:43:33 PM PDT by billmor (No medcine?...May we have some milk?..NO, that goes to the poor (wink))
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To: Salvation
Someone tell the boobs on Vatican radio this is why universal health care in the hands of the left is not a good idea. I don't think this is what social justice is suppose to be about.
16 posted on 07/23/2009 5:47:47 AM PDT by mimaw
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Not just Goober, but the entire Democrat establishment. As we've seen too many times even their so-called "Blue Dogs" will sell out for "federal pork" if the only price is another dead baby.

Eventually we are going to have to address this issue head on and change some minds ~ and there are several ways to do that.

17 posted on 07/23/2009 5:53:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Thanks for the links; posts; thread. BTTT!


18 posted on 07/23/2009 6:23:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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As Obama collects this kook fringe closer and closer to himself, it rubs off.

Bet Bill Ayers is very upset about these appointments ~ no doubt he thinks his being a mad bomber is something to keep him out of the government when Obama brings in baby killer advocates like Singer.

Just a matter of time and someone like Ayers, or another kook who didn't get brought in is going to do a "Guiteau" on the guy.

We'll all cry and pretend to be sad no doubt

19 posted on 07/23/2009 6:27:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Salvation

Kill the “Kill Bill”.


20 posted on 07/23/2009 6:37:38 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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