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Obama, Clinton, McCaskill ORIGINAL 'BIRTHERS' (April 10, 2008): Scrubbing McCain's NBC Status
govtrack.us ^ | April 10, 2008 | govtrack.us

Posted on 07/22/2009 8:09:58 PM PDT by txhurl

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To: BP2

bttt


21 posted on 07/22/2009 8:50:09 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: txhurl
As I have said in other posts my theory is that O has planned this all along. He is setting a trap for his political opponents that he will spring right before the midterm elections by producing the BC.
He will then be able to label everyone opposing him as right wing racist wing nuts and the public pushed by the media will buy it handing the GOP a final disastrous defeat.

This resolution only demonstrates to me that O's strategy from the very beginning..

22 posted on 07/22/2009 8:50:30 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: txhurl

If I were Congress, I would start shying away from Obama.


23 posted on 07/22/2009 8:52:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: BP2

This crucial evidence as to the Framers’ intent is of such supreme importance to this debate that it deserves a posting of its own.


24 posted on 07/22/2009 8:52:31 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: montanajoe

Yep, that’s a possibility.


25 posted on 07/22/2009 8:53:16 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: conservativegramma
This bill affirms that BOTH parents have to be citizens.

Time for a civics lesson.

26 posted on 07/22/2009 8:56:02 PM PDT by TankerKC (USAF...retired. Well, on Terminal Leave.)
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To: txhurl

LOL —ORIGINAL BIRTHERS

Flashback: proof of the left’s selective rules.

They can run but they can’t hide!


27 posted on 07/22/2009 8:57:12 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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To: montanajoe

He will then be able to label everyone opposing him as right wing racist wing nuts


He already did that on the campaign trail: bitter, clinging, or weren’t you there?

He still has to explain McCaskill trying to put together legislation changing the two citizens parents requirement to one citizens parent.

This is one case where he can’t bury the record.


28 posted on 07/22/2009 9:00:24 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: BP2

Source that cite (it obviously came from somewhere else, since “SEE THAT EDITION BELOW” is left hanging), and then start a thread in Bloggers & Personal. Doesn’t matter where you put it, it’ll show up on the main screen on the “Articles” tab or the “Comments” tab, and will be seen. I say “Bloggers & Personal” so you won’t get flamed for a vanity in News & Activism.


29 posted on 07/22/2009 9:03:50 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TankerKC
A child born of two citizens becomes a citizen at birth as long as one of the citizens ever resided in the United States. There are special provisions for children of citizens that are born overseas to parents serving the government or as missionaries.

One the flip side if you only have one parent that is a U.S.C. then it depends on when you were born.

For example, birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

30 posted on 07/22/2009 9:08:23 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: txhurl
I was there and I saw how well it worked..we lost or weren't you there?
In my opinion what will be remembered by the MSM from this sense of congress is the fact that McCain was foreign born and still eligible to run for president. Again I think O’s strategy was not just to win the presidency in ‘08 but to secure an final defeat of the right in 2010..
31 posted on 07/22/2009 9:09:28 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: April Lexington; Polarik

ping


32 posted on 07/22/2009 9:09:53 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: montanajoe; txhurl; MHGinTN; LucyT
Everyone knows of course that a senate resolution does not have the force of law...

YES -- BUT understand, that the SCOTUS has elected NOT to consider NBC, as they feel it's a Congressional matter.

ALSO understand that out of nearly 30 other attempts by Congress to (re)define "Natural Born Citizen" since the 1870s, S. Res 511 is the ONLY formal Resolution from the House or Senate on "Natural Born Citizen" to make it out of Committee.

Start by checking the Congressional Record (http://thomas.loc.gov/) for:

-- S. 2678 (2008)
-- H. J. RES. 15 (2005)
-- H. J. RES. 104 (2004)
-- H. J. RES. 47 (2001)
-- in the 80s, attempts were added to "English as the official US language" legislation
-- ... and further back ...

For those who care to do the research, you'll discover that this is the case ...

33 posted on 07/22/2009 9:10:29 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Which means from you logic that after O controls the congress they are free to pass legislation, not just a resolution, defining a NBC to suit their political purposes..


34 posted on 07/22/2009 9:15:51 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe
Which means from you logic that after O controls the congress they are free to pass legislation, not just a resolution, defining a NBC to suit their political purposes..

At THIS point in the Natural Born Citizen "discussion" -- I dare them to try that ... I REALLY do!

35 posted on 07/22/2009 9:18:17 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: montanajoe

Congress is not able to define the Constitutional term “natural-born citizen” or the requirements of such for the Presidency and the Vice Presidency, barring a Constitutional Convention.

Congres is, however, Constitutionally tasked with determining other citizenship matters, specifically naturalization.


36 posted on 07/22/2009 9:19:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: John Valentine

Freeper Beckwith has done just that at FR, and the material can be found at his Netpage, http://www.theobamafile.com


37 posted on 07/22/2009 9:21:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: conservativegramma

Chrissy, crybaby, Matthews needs to get the word..he is spitting mad at this outrage by those of us who are offended that our Constitution is being so tramped upon by this more white than black Kenyan..


38 posted on 07/22/2009 9:28:00 PM PDT by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: South40
Impeach the Kenyan...then deport him.

That is a far to easy solution!

He needs to be frog marched directly to Leavenworth and kept forever!!

Together with a whole bunch of dems and pubs as well!!!

39 posted on 07/22/2009 9:29:28 PM PDT by danamco
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When Mr. Obama produces his true Birth Certificate, and it confirms what is shown on the Certification of Live Birth, the case is closed.

NOT AT ALL!

There is whole bunch of other requirements that need to be met!!

His father was NOT a U.S. citizen, therefor the case is NOT closed!!!

40 posted on 07/22/2009 9:35:10 PM PDT by danamco
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