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To: astyanax
Um, there is such a thing as a birth certificate that was released. Yes it was a copy. So what? I can only get a copy of my REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AND THEY STAMP THE COPY!

What is your proof that he was not born in Hawaii?

Please show me the proof.

I believe Barak Obama was born in Hawaii.

I believe that Sarah Palin is the real mother of Trig Palin.

I believe that 19 terrorists were responsible for 9/11, not the U.S. government.

CALL ME CRAZY, I DON'T CARE.

35 posted on 07/22/2009 2:07:26 PM PDT by JRochelle ("I wasn't briefed about the briefing, I was only informed." SanFranNan.)
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To: JRochelle

It was not a birth certificate, it was a certificate of live birth.
You do not need to be born in Hawaii to be issued a COLB.
For that matter, if you WERE born in Hawaii and therefore HAD a birth certificate, WHY would you request a COLB?


47 posted on 07/22/2009 2:11:10 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: JRochelle

What hospital was he born at?

Who was the attending physician?

What race is African? Is that like European? Or South American?


50 posted on 07/22/2009 2:11:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: JRochelle
No disrespect intended, but you have a tin ear with the issue. The "certifigate" meme has legs, and it hurts 0 more than it hurts the good guys. And it will keep hurting 0 more than the good guys as long as 0 continues to stonewall.

And you're missing the reason this is getting traction. You say "...here is such a thing as a birth certificate that was released. Yes it was a copy." Wrong!

It was not a copy of anything. It was an "abstract", a computer print-out. Not a copy of the birth certificate, a new document. Now, Hawaii's director of the department of public health, Chiyome Fukino, has stated that she has seen the actual B/C, and that it's kosher, which it probably is. But people are now asking the logical question: "If there's nothing fishy about the B/C, why won't 0 just authorize its release?"

Granted, there is much frothing-at-the-mouth crazyness on the fringes of the question, but this simple, central question is not crazy. In fact it's the epitome of reasonable inquiry. And it resonates because of this.

71 posted on 07/22/2009 2:21:16 PM PDT by absalom01 (Molon Labe, baby.)
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To: JRochelle

I believe that Sarah Palin is the real mother of Trig Palin.

I believe that 19 terrorists were responsible for 9/11, not the U.S. government.

And I believe there must be a very good reason that they refuse to produce an actual birth cert. not a COLB.

Not to mention all of the other things being hidden.

Don’t you wonder why?


87 posted on 07/22/2009 2:27:08 PM PDT by muddler
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To: JRochelle

J Rochelle

listen here doofus

we live in a country where we can ask our leaders questions, see and we are the boss, not them, see, and they have to answer us with respect not laugh at us and call us names, get it?

The guy has been asked to show it and instead runs off in the middle of the campaign and has it sealed, see, and refuses to show it. Kenya has monuments to the guys claiming he was born there.

We are Bambi’s boss. We have demanded his birth certificate to qualify him for the job and he refuses. We are going to fire him for insubordination and that is about the size of it.

Now do you understand?


97 posted on 07/22/2009 2:33:56 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: JRochelle
Um, there is such a thing as a birth certificate that was released. Yes it was a copy. So what?

Obama's campaign released a jpeg image of a Certification of Live Birth - NOT a Birth Certificate.

These documents are two very different things, and the difference between them is what most people are missing.

A Certification of Live Birth only has your name, date of birth, place of birth, your parents names, as well as the races of both parents.

It is not accepted as proof of identity by any government agency in the US, because the information on it is limited, and does not show all of the pertinent facts surrounding your birth.

In addition to the fact that Obama only produced this half-baked document, it's been conclusively proven by Freeper Ron Polarik that even that was forged.

You really need to catch up. Everything I just told you has been posted here for many months.

139 posted on 07/22/2009 5:06:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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