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To: EternalVigilance

What exactly are the basic facts surrounding this issue. I mean i think like most people it would be rather easy to produce a birth certificate and put this issue to rest. But many are saying that it is the loons on the right that are keeping this issue alive. I for one would love to see this document and then i would be satisfied. Am i one of these nut jobs the left is talking about?


14 posted on 07/22/2009 1:58:44 PM PDT by chris haney
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To: chris haney

The basic facts are that the Constitution clearly requires the President to be natural born, and that Barack Obama has not proven that he is.


21 posted on 07/22/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama faction is killing the F-22 - perhaps they plan to obomba our enemies with hope and change)
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To: chris haney

You and me both


42 posted on 07/22/2009 2:09:57 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: chris haney

What did he know about his Indonesian Passport disqualifying him as POTUS AND When did he know it?

Some forged birth certificate won’t satisfy they POTUS eligibility issue...

Natural Born Eligibility to be POTUS is the issue.

Some say he lost his right to be President when he accepted the citizenship of Indonesia by accepting and using the Indonesian passport.

What did he know about his Indonesian Passport disqualifying him as POTUS AND When did he know it?

What did he know about his Indonesia Passport and When did he know it?


77 posted on 07/22/2009 2:23:29 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: chris haney

Yes, you are one of the nutjobs the left, and a few on the right, are talking about, if you want bambi to show his long form bc. How does feel to be a complete loon?


80 posted on 07/22/2009 2:25:01 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Squash the fascist insect that preys upon the lives of the people -- FUBO!)
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To: chris haney

“What exactly are the basic facts surrounding this issue.”

That is a great question, because the answer may disturb some who are just now coming to the issue.

1. There is no reason for anyone, including Congress, to believe O is a U.S. citizen - let alone a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution.

2. The paper trail that most of us leave during our lives is a complete blank in O’s case.

3. O told one U.S. court he placed his BC on the internet; there is substantial evidence the only document at the site he indicated is a forgery.

4. O has expended much effort and money in law suits to avoid being compelled to produce documents that would support his claim to be a U.S. citizen.

5. The Congress meets in a Joint Session early in the January following each presidential election for the sole purpose of receiving and verifying the work of the Electoral College. The Congress pursuant to 3 USC 15 calls for objections to any votes presented by the EC, and if there are any it reviews the objections and either accepts or rejects the votes. The Session concludes when the process is complete and the Congress has announced the winner of the election.

6. Congress did not make such a call in 2009 but nonetheless accepted the votes for O.

There is an argument concerning the fact that O had a Kenyan father. That is important if the classic view of natural born is adhered to.
Further, it seems clear O had foreign citizenship well into adult life which also violates the traditional view of NB.
Unfortunatley, these two arguments could be easily dismissed by a dem-controlled Congress.

However, the location of O’s birth is not nearly as easily dismissed, if at all.

You can see additional material at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2296931/posts


100 posted on 07/22/2009 2:36:05 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: chris haney

Its not just His Birth Certificate He is spending Big money to Prevent Release of ANY of his Records. Financial applications to College,Medical Records ,Selective Service Records ETC.


146 posted on 07/23/2009 3:50:05 AM PDT by ballplayer
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