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Girl, 13, arrested with machine gun after raid on south London flat
The Evening Standard (U.K.) ^ | July 22, 2009 | Martin Bentham

Posted on 07/22/2009 11:05:38 AM PDT by Stoat

BREAKING NEWS: Girl, 13, arrested with machine gun after raid on south London flat

Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor
22.07.09


Specialist officers raided the girl's home in Croydon

A 13-year-old girl has been arrested by armed Met police after a sub-machinegun was found in her wardrobe.

The weapon was discovered when a specialist anti-gang crime squad of 15 officers with hydraulic battering rams and combat shields raided the girl's home in Croydon.

She was detained on suspicion of possessing a firearm, an offence which carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years for adults and three for juveniles.

The raid, which police say is likely to be followed by further arrests, will prompt renewed fears that older criminals are involving children in gun and gang crime and using them to look after weapons.

Police declined to comment on the background to the arrest but said the raid was part of an operation by the Aries squad in Croydon which targets criminal gangs.

A Met spokesman said: “A 13-year-old girl was arrested on suspicion of possessing a firearm and taken to a south London police station. The weapon was a sub-machinegun. She has been bailed and further arrests are anticipated.”

Sergeant Darin Birmingham, who led the raid, added: “We received information that the young man living here, who is a known gang member, had access to firearms.”

In the raid yesterday afternoon, armed officers sealed off the Monks Hill Estate in Shirley and people were told to stay in their houses. A hydraulic battering ram was used to force the door of the flat where the girl was in Tedder Road.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; britain; england; greatbritain; secondamendment; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: CholeraJoe

Those were made right here in Anderson, Indiana and a lot of people here have them. It’s no big thang.


21 posted on 07/22/2009 11:25:57 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: tumblindice

Are they Class 3 exempt, or have they been modified to only shoot semi-auto?


22 posted on 07/22/2009 11:30:01 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (This is the worst economic crisis since Brittney Spears shaved both ends!)
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To: ChocChipCookie

ha! ha! A GREASE GUN!!!!
Those were mass-produced stamped things!
Kinda point in a general direction and let it rip.


23 posted on 07/22/2009 11:35:42 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: CholeraJoe

Even the full auto often became semi-auto since they would jam like Grand Funk Railroad.
I just helped a guy toward paying the fee ($200?) so his was full auto, I’ve never heard of a semi-auto M-3.
FYI, the plant here also made those `one-shot’ pressed steel, use a gun, get a gun, .45 pistols provided to the French resistance.


24 posted on 07/22/2009 11:37:16 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Stoat

Fortunately there are strict gun laws in the UK so kids can never get their hands on guns...

...er...


25 posted on 07/22/2009 11:38:49 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: P8riot

How’s I supposed know she was 13, your honor?


26 posted on 07/22/2009 11:45:01 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: Stoat

Kewl! Legally registered grease guns are worth thousands in the US. Actually, I think they work pretty well if the magazines are in good shape. Mags are the usual weak spot in full and semi-autos. That was the main problem with the Sten gun.


27 posted on 07/22/2009 11:45:30 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: tumblindice

Kewl. Evansville made the landing ships that delivered tanks to Normandy. We’ve got one on display down at the river. Still works, too.


28 posted on 07/22/2009 11:48:08 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (This is the worst economic crisis since Brittney Spears shaved both ends!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It’s grease gun Barbie hosing down Ken after he stumbled in at 3 AM with lipstick on his collar, liquor on his breath and lovin’ on his mind.


29 posted on 07/22/2009 11:48:55 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: tumblindice

Ah.. the “Liberator”. Those things look like they are just as dangerous from the breech end as the muzzle.


30 posted on 07/22/2009 11:49:14 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("The rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office". ~Andrew Jackson)
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To: ChocChipCookie; LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot; CholeraJoe; Red Badger; FlorianG; VR-21; ...
UPDATE:

According to other sources, the weapon is not at WW2 -vintage 'grease gun' as suggested by The Evening Standard.  Perhaps this was a matter of weapon-ignorant Socialists using any old stock photo for their article because "all guns are evil and they're the same".

Teenage girl arrested after assault rifle found in room The Sun News

 

Teen girl nicked with assault rifle

 
Violent ... teen was found with M4 CQB rifle

Violent ... teen was found with M4 CQB rifle

 
 

A GIRL of 13 was nicked by cops after a deadly assault rifle was found in her bedroom.

The converted M4 CQB was discovered under a wardrobe during a raid targeting gangs in South London.

Cops received a tip-off it was being stored there.

Around 15 armed CO19 officers used hydraulic battering rams to blow off the doors of her parents' flat in Shirley, near Croydon.

 

Gang

 

Officers raced inside with combat shields shouting: "Armed police, get on the ground."

The girl was arrested on suspicion of possessing the firearm which was under a wardrobe wrapped in clothes.

It his thought her 17-year-old brother had been storing it for older gang members.

Sergeant Darin Birmingham, who led the raid, said: "We received information that the young man living there - a known gang member - had access to firearms.

"We pieced together the information we had and decided to act immediately in case the firearm was used.

"If we get this information we will act as swiftly as we can to take these guns off the streets.

 

"If you mess around with weapons we will be at your front door and you will come face to face with an armed response unit, we will not tolerate the use of weapons in this borough."

Roads were cordoned off on the Monks Hill Estate and people told to stay in their houses as the heavily armed officers made their way to the building.

Cops armed with sub-machine guns sealed off the property on Tuesday searching for the automatic weapon.

Scotland Yard said: "A girl - aged 13-years - was arrested for possession of a firearm and taken to a South London police station. She has been bailed to return. Further arrests are anticipated."

Schoolgirl, 13, arrested after sub-machine gun found in her wardrobe Mail Online


31 posted on 07/22/2009 11:53:21 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: tumblindice

My daddy carried one of those weapons for a while,said
it was better than it looked

Made by Singer Corp I believe?


32 posted on 07/22/2009 11:53:39 AM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: tumblindice

Guide made the M-3 when the M-1 Thompson became just too expensive and time consuming.

As I type this, I’m sitting in my office, which is Guide’s last headquarters.
They went out of business two+ years ago and we bought the building.
1/5th of the guys in my department were at Guide then and totally screwed out of their pension and health benefits.

The “Liberator” pistol (FP-45) was a single-shot .45ACP that held the cartridge in the pistol grip (but not as a magazine). You are correct. It was also manufactured by Inland Guide (GM) right here in Anderson, Indiana.


33 posted on 07/22/2009 11:53:53 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Harold Shea

Singer made a small number of M1911 .45ACP pistols during WWII.

IIRC, they’re some of the most sought after and valuable M1911s ever made.


34 posted on 07/22/2009 11:54:55 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: tumblindice

Where you at?
I’m sitting in the last Guide headquarters right now.


35 posted on 07/22/2009 11:55:29 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Stoat
Wow. Yes any old 'assault weapon' will do to the media.

I thought 'nicked' was slang for stolen?

36 posted on 07/22/2009 11:57:42 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("The rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office". ~Andrew Jackson)
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To: Harold Shea; SJSAMPLE; All

Please see the update at post #31...it appears that the Evening Standard may have been lazy when posting a stock photo, and the weapon may have been an M-16 style instead.


37 posted on 07/22/2009 11:57:47 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot; manc; All
I thought 'nicked' was slang for stolen?

My understanding is that 'nicked' can be used both as slang for stolen as well as for being arrested.

I'm sure that our friend Manc or other Brit Freepers can verify.

38 posted on 07/22/2009 12:00:54 PM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot; manc; All
I thought 'nicked' was slang for stolen?

My understanding is that 'nicked' can be used both as slang for stolen as well as for being arrested.

I'm sure that our friend Manc or other Brit Freepers can verify.

39 posted on 07/22/2009 12:01:14 PM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

lol


40 posted on 07/22/2009 12:03:25 PM PDT by xone
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