Posted on 07/20/2009 7:40:35 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
flurry of articles on news sites. Google News - Obama Constitutionally Eligible?
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Nope, if otherwise qualified, they are as eligible as anyone. IIRC, we have more than one Convicted Felon in Congress. Obama's congressman, and Black Panther Bobby Rush(D-Chicago) for example. Alcee Hastings(D-FL 23) for another.(Now that is Gerrymandered District if I ever saw one.) Although technically Hastings is a not a *convicted* felon, but, as a Carter appointed Federal judge, he was impeached by a Democrate House and convicted in the (Democrat) Senate for taking a $150K (1981 dollars) bribe from a racketeer.
Now a President could be impeached and convicted for committing a felony, if in their judgment it rose to the status of "high crime". Diddling the interns and lying under oath apparently does not, if the President In Question is a 'Rat that is.
You have to look at the notes as well, since the law changed in 1986.
Under the current law, someone born abroad with one US Parent and one foreign citizen parent, is a citizen at birth if their citizen parent resides in the US for a total of five years, two of the after their 14th birthday. Previously it had been ten and five years repectively. Obama's mother did not satisfy that criteria, since she was only 18 when he was born.
Actualy it's now 2 years, but it was 5 when Obama was born, but it's after the 14th birthday, not after age 16. The citizen parent must have resided in US for 5 years total, which was 10 years when Obama was born. Both changes were made in 1986.
B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION
A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:
1. appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
2.in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
3. sign an oath of renunciation
It also says:
F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.
But this is a bit incomplete, since there are other ways to renounce citizenship than making the application described above.
Here's The Law
Basically you can't until you are 18. P>
This reminds me of the flurry of noise about Clinton just before the blue dress was found. The greatest red siren Drudge ever had.., but this one might top it when it comes.
Actually, while it might not be sufficient, it might be an element. It's possible in Hawaii and other states to file for a delayed birth certificate, and for non delayed one that alleges a home birth. An entry in the family bible might support or refute the fact of birth at the time and place alleged in the application and accepted birth certificate. But in order to know if the Certification of Live Birth is based on such a "nonstandard" Certificate of Live Birth, one has to see the Certificate, since such information is not on the Certification. Filing as a home birth is just the sort of thing a concerned grandmother might do to ensure her grandchild was a counted as a US Citizen. Something most, even extreme liberals, thought important in 1961. But since the Certification released is a clear forgery, the Certificate could say almost anything.
The State Department will not accept Delayed Birth Certificates, ones that show a date of birth more than a year before the date accepted by the registrar. That's because such are so easy to get for persons born outside the country, and the Certification (or other abstract, different states have different terminology) does not contain enough information to verify that the birth actually took place where and when indicated.
I meant to say "Delayed Abstract/Short form BCs. They will accept long form/vault copies of delayed BCs. Of course they will check the information out more thouroughly than they would a normal BC, short or long form.
Standing in line and giving the required documents, or sending them through the post office is for the "common crowd."
I was a low level gov contractor in need of a passport for work purposes and it was walked through with nothing more then my photo. Obama did not have to do shiite to get his in 2005...no questions asked wen a senator needs one.
Not condoning it...it is just how its done. Why do you think the contractors were busted scrubbing passport files before election.
1. I don't think even Buckhead thinks it's a clear forgery.
2. Although the Hawaiian authorities in charge of birth certificates have not released information about Obama's vault birth certificate, other than the fact that it exists, I do not believe they they would remain silent about such a public use of a forged certification.
EVEN WORSE in the midst of all this, read the article below
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/07/mind-boggling-look-at-health-take-over.html
>>”Why don’t we take out a whole page ad in the NYT and Washington Post to run on 9-12....”<<
Good idea, ncfool. I’ll donate what I can.
Hey Jim, maybe a special Freepathon for the funds for this excellent idea?
The “O” has got to go!
Lou Dobbs is all over this story. He had some lib psychologist on (Joy Brown) who was dismissive of the request for a certificate, and he really let her have it, stating that many Americans want to see the thing, and that they have a legitimate right to do so.
I think you mean “worst”?
Good points all. Hopefully a President Biden would only serve out the rest of Barry’s term, and not get re-elected in some show of sympathy.
Biden the dottering old fool is light years better than the Muslim Marxist, for sure!
Keep the faith!
Adoption or no adoption, the United States does not permit a child to renounce his citizenship nor does the United States allow a parent to renounce citizenship for his a child.
Indonesia makes laws determining who is or is not a citizen of Indonesia, however Indonesia can not decide who is or is not a US citizen.
That has already been TRIED. They WILL NOT permit such ads to be published, no matter WHAT you pay.
It WAS brought up WAY before the election!!! The Mighty Media Monolith just covered it up.
But, I believe Sotomayor and the Supremes would VALIDATE everything that Hussein Obama did, even IF he were removed from office in disgrace.
That would wipe out most of Congress and the Supreme Court. Interesting turn of events would it not be?
Yes indeed. What I don't get it why Cheney was in such a hurry to get the January vote count done?
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