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To: Will88

OK, you can believe what you want, we are just going to agree to disagree on some of this, tho I do agree with your last statement....however with statistics.

2008 US electorate (not the population!) was
73% “White”
9% “Hispanic”
2% “Asian”
3% “Other”
13% “Black.” (Wikipedia)

So you said they won with huge margins of blacks, etc, The population demographics don’t seem to support that.

So you said 40% white voted for obama (source?), well ok, that 40 percent is from the mere 66 percent of total whites that bothered to voted in the elections per the article....so perhaps if they had gotten out and voted, we’d be looking at a different summer. Sorry only 66% of white population percent voted (that included college kids btw)—that did not help GOP and enabled the great spender into office.

Statistically, the youth vote is not a large percentage of the total population. If every college-aged kid voted for Obama (& they did not) that would be 40 million; less than 20 million actually did vote in 2008,and the vote was 2:1—so somewhere around 12,500,000 voted for Obama.

So in my opinion, the other voter demographics you mention at the end of your post jwith the addition of unions, Soc. Sec, Medicare are actually the ones who put obama over ^ many of those are older and should have known better. Period. The “starry eyed” colege kids did not put him hin & like i initially said, they may want to lynch those who are responsible.

Here are the numbers: total votes cast 131.3 million
votes for obama 64,629,649
college-aged who voted: <20 mil
2/1 is somewhere a little
uner 13 mill

Who were the other 51,700,000 who cast obama votes?

Again, sorry, I don’t hold up & coming voters or current younger voters fully responsible & they are going have a huge right to be mad. I feel that we as the older generation and their parents should have done a better job of fighting liberalism when it crept in with FDR and LBJ (both before my time btw). Oh —I have had my reps on speed dial for years, but obviously our education system has failed at teaching civics, our media has failed at reporting the news, and so what should we expect from younger and college-aged voters. As I said, many actually get a clue when they graduate and join the grownups in the real world.

the article sums it up Last November, voters under 30 cast ballots for Obama by a 2-to-1 ratio. Still, because of their smaller numbers — in population and turnout — young voters weren’t critical to the overall outcome and only made a difference in North Carolina and Indiana, according to Scott Keeter, Pew’s director of survey research.

I do agree: Who you can really blame are the leftists, and those who vote with them: Liberal white, black Americans, Hispanic Americans, and all sorts of narrow interest groups like feminists and gays and environmental extremists, who have members from all ethnic groups.


123 posted on 07/20/2009 6:48:02 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: bushwon
So you said they won with huge margins of blacks, etc, The population demographics don’t seem to support that.

Yes, they do support it. Just up the white percentage I used some and it supports it perfectly. I told you I was using approximate figures. Here, using your figures:

White vote: 73% X 45% = 32.85

Black: 13% X 95% = 12.35

Hispanic: 9% X 70% = 6.30

Other/Asian 5% X 70% = 3.50

Total 100% 55.00% for Obama

That's very close to Obama's %. Other includes Jews, Muslims, etc, and Obama got high percentages of those ethnics. The first % is your % of what % each group was of the total vote, and the second the % Obama received from each group.

And, just my opinion, young people voting 2 to 1 for Obama are very much responsible for all the additional debt he piles up. Or maybe they didn't know enough to be voting, which is no excuse.

And, as the winner, Obama did much better among whites than Gore or Kerry, so, his minority support is a lesser percentage of his total than for Gore or Kerry. But minority votes are still almost 1/2 the Dem votes in presidential elections.

This is about all the effort this is worth. McCain clearly won the white vote, and Obama got the indicated high %'s of the black, Hispanic and other votes.

127 posted on 07/20/2009 7:45:00 PM PDT by Will88
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To: bushwon

Here from an article. Should have Googled this sooner, but it shows Obama getting less of the white vote than my estimate. Obama 53% of total vote, 43% of white vote:

“McCain beat Obama among white voters by an even more impressive 12-point margin. Obama got 53 percent of the broad electorate to vote for him but only 43 percent of the white electorate. When I say “white electorate,” I don’t mean the white working class, or white Southerners, or any other subgroup whose capacity for racial tolerance has long been held suspect. I mean all white voters.”

http://www.slate.com/id/2204251/


128 posted on 07/20/2009 7:51:03 PM PDT by Will88
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To: bushwon

bushwon, that Slate article I link discussing the things presented in the subject of this thread more clearly than the thread’s lead article.


129 posted on 07/20/2009 7:55:14 PM PDT by Will88
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