Posted on 07/18/2009 4:30:37 PM PDT by jazusamo
Once this passes through despite letters, emails and phone calls, it's time to prepare for what we will become. I think you know what I'm talking 'bout.
Sometimes people need an excuse to have a lot of guns and gear....and Zombie Huntn' is a good one!
“No one” doesn’t have choice.
Have you read the bill?
This needs a video campaign from the GOP... Democrats in Congress want to force your healthcare option but won’t join it themselves.
Democrat lawmakers have no credibility on this issue if they refuse to join the plan.
Now to completely destroy this idiotic bill another ammendment should be put up stating that Birth Control will be issued by the government run plan. Any pregnancy will be the result of patient non-compliance with the Birth Control and therefore will be deemed as a requested pregnancy and no Abortion will be made available because the fetus will have gained the Healtcare benefits as included under this plan.
It really is more politics and filling the federal coffers with a new tax, as well as about controlling YOU —it’s not about welfare, and it’s not about illegals. Not really.
You are complaining because your husband pays $240.00 per month for health insurance? I would say you are somewhat insulated from the real world! Our family of five pays $15,000.00 per year, and we don’t have any chronic health problems, we just live in a state where some of the Clinton health plan provisions got passed and we have very few choices. Most corporations provide health insurance for employees at a cost of about $12,000.00 per year. I really don’t think you should be complaining about cost—it’s no more than average.
Now for illegals and welfare, just how will that work, I don't know.
I guess some will be “privileged”.
Great rant!
Dang I misspelled “rode”....:o)
First of all, I’m not complaining — far from it. Our family has had several catastrophic health issues - including 2 instances of cancer, If asked to pay more, I can’t imagine the heights to which I would go happily as I am sitting here looking at my daughter and husband, healthy and cancer-free.
Secondly, maybe I misposted something, but my husband pays SIX hundred a month - not 240 - and he only pays 40% of the total premium.
Thirdly, my post was in response to the implication that everyone would love to have the type of insurance the feds have, with no indication of how much it costs. The true cost of our insurance is very close to what yours is, it’s just as a benefit, we have 60% of the premium covered. Many people would balk at paying as much as we do (and apparently you also) and demand that this level be provided free without understanding that nothing is free.
Lastly, after posting the information, I acknowledged that I haven’t a clue how much insurance costs for people outside our situation. My husband has held his job for 30 years and we have had the same insurance for the 28 years of our marriage. If you tell me that good insurance costs 15k a year, I accept that as fact and thank you for sharing the figures.
I don’t know where you got the idea that I was complaining, so please understand I am not. I feel grateful and incredibly fortunate that our life choices included insurance that kept my family intact.
Oh, I see,
I said, “My husband’s monthly premium is $600 a month and his portion is 40% of the total premium” and you took that to mean we pay $240. No, the 600 is our portion of the total premium. I’m pretty sure that the total real premium is around $1400 a month which over a year would be close to 17k
However, my question still stands — would 600 a month (our portion) or 7,200 a year purchase any type of quality insurance?
Bravo! Bachmann says it like it is!
Why aren’t more members of Congress speaking out? This is pathetic.
Most of those voted into congress are nothing but pieces of human garbage. I would get more descriptive but Jim Thompson would ban me. :-)
See what happens when you can’t sleep? Lol
There are not enough curse words in the ENglish language to adequately express what I think of these a-holes.
Naw, Mr. Thompson has intoned far more descriptive phrases :o)
How would citizens go about getting a congress critter to enter a bill which would lead to a Constitutional Amendment requiring every citizen of the U.S. to be subject to all enactments of the Federal Government? No exclusions for the elite folks sitting on their exalted seats. Do we even need a congress critter to sponsor it - can we the citizens do this without the “help” of professional politicians? If we can, we should. THEN, voting may change dramatically.
Government employee unions are prohibited by law from negotiating wages - wages are (for practical purposes) set by the Congress and the President. There are not “union wages” for government workers ...
Where unions get involved with wages is for federal contractors - unions lobby for “prevailing wage” clauses in procurement legislation to insure that government contractors must pay wages equivalent to “union wages”. This is to ensure no contractor can price a contract based on “market wages” rather than “union wages”, and cut the unions out of federal contracts due to their bloated wages.
Fed employees do have their own health plan (which is not free - employees pay a percentage of the cost, as does the government). The health plan offers a number of choices from among private insurers like CareFirst, Kaiser-Permanente, Aetna, etc. The government does not administer the plan, it merely negotiates a master contract specifying what services must be offered. The private companies can (and do) set their own co-payments, rules for coverage (i.e. the necessity of a referral to see a specialist), and make their own claims decisions - though those decisions can be appealed to a federal board for conformity to the master contract. It is a very good plan, no doubt, but there are much better (and, or course, much worse) private employer sponsored plans out there.
This is amazing.
I would have expected them to vote this in, and then quietly fund their own private care. Certainly, these three are rich enough to do so.
The fact that they are NOT is more than an outrage. I speaks to their character, as well as their preceived role of this program as something for the poor, or something that will screwed up for years and might kill them (likly, both).
THE most eye opening thing I’ve seen on Government controlled care is here:
http://www.nahu.org/media/singlepayervideo.cfm
I have met this woman, and she is very credible; a respected business woman, community leader and volunteer.
Ironically, she is former(unpaid)President of a health insurance agent’s association. Thus, she understood what was happening to her american tourist mother, and fought hard, as the system was killing her.
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