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Heat's off man who packed heat at Obama rally
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 17 July 2009 | unknown

Posted on 07/17/2009 8:58:41 PM PDT by bushpilot1

Edited on 07/17/2009 9:21:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A jury in Beaver County has found a man not guilty on a charge filed against him last year after he brought a handgun to an Obama rally.

The jury this morning returned the verdict on a charge of disrupting a public gathering in favor of John Noble, 51, of Industry.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; johnnoble; opencarry
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1 posted on 07/17/2009 8:58:41 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

What was a gun owner doing at an Obama rally anyway?


2 posted on 07/17/2009 9:04:36 PM PDT by bornred
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To: bushpilot1

What legal trouble can be brought forth aagainst the trooper for enfringing on this mans rights?


3 posted on 07/17/2009 9:05:28 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (I am Jim Thompson,Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: bornred

He was across the street at another park....he wasn’t at the rally


4 posted on 07/17/2009 9:07:39 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Have you girded your loins today??????)
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To: bushpilot1

Note to self. If the man had a concealed carry license and was lawfully carrying, remind law enforcement to never ever bring charges like that again. If such directive is not heeded, then law enforcement official involved is to not ever work in the state again in any position in any field.


5 posted on 07/17/2009 9:07:50 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He did not need a CCL.


6 posted on 07/17/2009 9:11:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Briggsy

I don’t believe the man was even at the rally. If he were armed and then present at a rally for someone he opposed politically, there might be an issue. If he were at the rally and was in full support of the candidate and had the gun concealed and was not causing any problems of any kind, why would there be an issue? Somehow, the guns have become evil, not the hearts, minds and intentions of man.


9 posted on 07/17/2009 9:19:11 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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No verdict rendered on man who brought gun to Obama rally [PA]
post-gazette.com ^ | July 17, 2009 | Kaitlynn Riely

Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:33:49 AM by smokingfrog

A Beaver County jury adjourned yesterday without reaching a verdict in the trial of a man charged with disrupting a public meeting for taking a gun to an Obama rally in Beaver last year.

John Noble, 51, of Industry, openly carried his Glock pistol to the Aug. 29 outdoor rally in a park across from the Beaver County Courthouse. At the rally, Mr. Noble was carrying a Bible and handing out pro-gun fliers.

The jury went home for the day at 4:15 p.m. after deliberating for nearly five hours.

“This is the first time that I’ve received a request from a jury to be released because they are frazzled,” Beaver County Judge Harry E. Knafelc said.

The judge said he was told the discussions about the case were lively. Members of the jury briefly interrupted their deliberations around 1:45 p.m. to ask Judge Knafelc to explain “intent” and “disturbance.”

Mr. Noble declined to comment after the judge released the jury.

“The jury is doing their job,” he said.

Friends and family of Mr. Noble waited in the courthouse for the verdict yesterday, many of them wearing empty holsters. They’d checked their guns at the entrance to the courthouse.

During closing arguments, Frank Martocci, the prosecutor, said openly carrying a gun to the political rally was “the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.” He said free speech must be weighed against others’ rights to peaceably assemble.

Defense attorney Stephen Colafella said it’s not Pennsylvania’s place to legislate or dictate under what circumstances a person can exercise a lawful right. Rather, he said, a political rally was the right place for Mr. Noble to openly carry a gun as a political demonstration.

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10 posted on 07/17/2009 9:21:05 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He open carried. There is, of course, no exception to the 2nd Amendment for political rallies.


11 posted on 07/17/2009 9:21:17 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Briggsy

He was across the street from the rally, he wasn’t attending the rally, some pinko commie obama supporter saw the guy with a gun and, hating and loathing the constitutional guarantees our founders gave us, reported the man to the police, who acted like jack-booted thugs instead of telling the hippie to mind his own business.


12 posted on 07/17/2009 9:21:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Briggsy

If an American citizen, no problem.


13 posted on 07/17/2009 9:22:23 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242
Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This statute makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.

This law further prohibits a person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation or custom to willfully subject or cause to be subjected any person to different punishments, pains, or penalties, than those prescribed for punishment of citizens on account of such person being an alien or by reason of his/her color or race.

Acts under “color of any law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the bounds or limits of their lawful authority, but also acts done without and beyond the bounds of their lawful authority; provided that, in order for unlawful acts of any official to be done under “color of any law,” the unlawful acts must be done while such official is purporting or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. This definition includes, in addition to law enforcement officials, individuals such as Mayors, Council persons, Judges, Nursing Home Proprietors, Security Guards, etc., persons who are bound by laws, statutes ordinances, or customs.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both, and if bodily injury results or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire shall be fined or imprisoned up to ten years or both, and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


14 posted on 07/17/2009 9:24:29 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Not if your a black panther, they use to do marches caring weapons which they have a right to do in an open unconcealed manner but if the KKK or some white supremacy group did the same thing the panthers would truly be up in arms as it would be racist for a white group to do the same cause it would be for intimidation.
15 posted on 07/17/2009 9:29:52 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: imahawk

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242
Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This statute makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.

This law further prohibits a person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation or custom to willfully subject or cause to be subjected any person to different punishments, pains, or penalties, than those prescribed for punishment of citizens on account of such person being an alien or by reason of his/her color or race.

Acts under “color of any law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the bounds or limits of their lawful authority, but also acts done without and beyond the bounds of their lawful authority; provided that, in order for unlawful acts of any official to be done under “color of any law,” the unlawful acts must be done while such official is purporting or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. This definition includes, in addition to law enforcement officials, individuals such as Mayors, Council persons, Judges, Nursing Home Proprietors, Security Guards, etc., persons who are bound by laws, statutes ordinances, or customs.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both, and if bodily injury results or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire shall be fined or imprisoned up to ten years or both, and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


16 posted on 07/17/2009 9:30:00 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Reminder bump! ;-)


17 posted on 07/17/2009 9:33:19 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: guitarplayer1953

It seems that a black panther or more were carrying open in front of voting areas. Why weren’t they charged?


18 posted on 07/17/2009 9:35:32 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

Call eric holder, let us know the answer.


19 posted on 07/17/2009 9:44:25 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: freekitty
They were just showing their 2nd amendment rights and if you don't like it then your just a racist. /s
20 posted on 07/17/2009 9:45:19 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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