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To: Copernicus

“State’s Rights effectively ended when Woodrow Wilson
rammed through the direct election of Senators.”
-
It started way before that...


12 posted on 07/17/2009 6:07:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Repeal The 17th
It started way before that...

I would say that Dishonest Abe Lincoln & Reconstruction had something to do w/ it. The Progressive Era of the late 19th & early 20th centuries can't be forgotten, though.

24 posted on 07/17/2009 6:50:38 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

10th Amendment-

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

17th Amendment-

“The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.”

(-note- nothing in the 17th amendment restricts the authority of the states vs the Federal Government.)

What is difficult to understand?

Just because we have allowed the Federal Government to exceed their authority, does not make it constitutional.

The solution is to decentralize government and re-assert our rights as Citizens. We are not a dictatorship yet.

I have an idea of how to change the balance. Have Congress and the Senate “tele commute” and live in their district.

AMENDMENT XX

Passed by Congress March 2, 1932. Ratified January 23, 1933.

Note: Article I, section 4, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of this amendment. In addition, a portion of the 12th amendment was superseded by section 3.

Section 2.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

The law only requires that they meet 1 time per year. There is no reason for them to be in DC full time. No reason with todays technology.


39 posted on 07/17/2009 7:48:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

“It started way before that...”

Abraham Lincoln, wasn’t the best example of a Strict Constructionist.


57 posted on 07/17/2009 9:23:30 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We are an Oligarchy)
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To: Repeal The 17th

>>“State’s Rights effectively ended when Woodrow Wilson
rammed through the direct election of Senators.”
-
It started way before that...<<

Yeah, some guy named Lincoln ended the rights of states to be sovereign. Not to mention the total disregard for the Constitution. Have any doubts? Read the Constitutions of WV, SD and NV to see where the power lies.

The dark clouds of war are forming. And to think it could have been avoided.

Deo vindice


71 posted on 07/18/2009 2:05:02 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

“State’s Rights effectively ended when Woodrow Wilson
rammed through the direct election of Senators.”
- This is wrong

FOR EVERY WRONG THERE IS A RIGHT.

IT CAN BE FIXED - one way or another.


81 posted on 07/18/2009 4:08:19 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Repeal The 17th
It started way before that...

And how.

98 posted on 07/18/2009 7:13:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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