Posted on 07/16/2009 10:59:40 PM PDT by pissant
"Could we," I said, "somehow contrive one of those lies that come into being in case of need, of which we were just now speaking, some one noble lie to persuade, in the best case, even the rulers, but if not them, the rest of the city? ... I'll attempt to persuade first the rulers and the soldiers, then the rest of the city, that the rearing and education we gave them were like dreams, they only thought they were undergoing all that was happening to them, while, in truth, at that time, they were under the earth within, being fashioned and reared themselves, and their arms and other tools being crafted. When the job had been completely finished, then the earth which is their mother, sent them up. And now, as though the land they are in were a mother and nurse, they must plan for and defend it, if anyone attacks, and they must think of the other citizens as brothers and born of the earth." (Plato's "Republic," Allan Bloom's translation, III/414b-e.)
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"Lester, let's finish this one. Do all of your listeners and the listeners throughout this country the service to which any journalist owes those listeners, and that is the pursuit of the noble truth. And the noble truth is that the president was born in Hawaii, a state of the United States of America."(White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, as reported in WND's article, "Now White House joins 'birth hospital' cover-up.")
There was a time when good journalism had a standard consistent with Joe Friday's terse instruction, "All we want are the facts, ma'am." That was the pursuit of the simple truth. When I read the phrase "the noble truth" in Robert Gibbs' smugly evasive riposte
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Did anyone notice that Gibbs uses the same tactic taught in Managerial Training 101? The idea that you should flatter the object of your scorn just before you shoot them down? Gibbs did exact that. He calls Lee an intelligent man and then proceeds to do his little laughing dance act. It was quite noticeable.
Next time Gibbs, don’t be so obvious in your attempts to cover up the truth. There’s nothing “noble” about it and you know it.
I still say you guys are missing the boat by harping on his BC. He may have one, he may not. The REAL “noble truth” here is that Obama admits he’s a dual citizen, at birth, and history guarantees that this wasn’t allowed at the time the Constitution was signed.
In fact, there has been no amendment anywhere saying that dual-citizen can run for President. They owe allegiance to both countries, at best. According to the early Supreme Court cases, he would have been deemed ONLY a British subject since they followed the patrem rule, taking the FATHER’s nationality, not the mother. Even if he decided later to owe allegiance to America, he’d be naturalized, not natural born.
Technically, it’s not about the BC, although I’d still love to see it. This jerk isn’t even supposed to be in that office, AT ALL.
Keyes:"The brainwashed American elites buying into the Obama faction's pseudo-Platonic intellectual poison appear to have forgotten the wisdom of the American founders. The founders' approach to government was based on truths derived from observing human experience, rather than "noble" lies forcefully imposed by dictatorial elites. Such experience warned that unchecked power would lead to brutal oppression, no matter the lofty goals and promising rhetoric of those to whom it is entrusted. Plato tacitly acknowledges this severity when he conjures up the ultimate requirement of his Republic's "ideal" regime: the removal from society of everyone over 10 years old (i.e., anyone who refuses to submit to superior power the way very young children must). Given the massive atrocities perpetrated by the totalitarian ideologues of the 20th century, the idea of such large-scale purges is no longer a Platonic one."
Frightening thought. Maybe that's what the "end of life" counseling in Obamacare is for.
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