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To: kellynla

I wrote earlier today that those who thought it was a victory when his orders to deploy were revoked are extremely naive.

The Department of Defense can not and should not tolerate this type of behavior. Regardless of who the POTUS is, it is astonishing and disturbing here that people here are tolerating mutiny of our military.

WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN, REMEMBER FOLKS?


91 posted on 07/15/2009 2:28:12 PM PDT by rubeng
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To: rubeng
"WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN, REMEMBER FOLKS?"

Which is precisely why we should be focusing on the snake in our foxhole before we try to service the 300 meter target.

92 posted on 07/15/2009 2:30:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rubeng

He stepped up to ask a simple question - were is the mutiny part?


93 posted on 07/15/2009 2:33:48 PM PDT by unique
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To: rubeng

Did you ever serve in the military? It is a part of our DUTY to this country and to the constitution to REFUSE illegal and unlawful orders. If President Obama orders you to kill unarmed civilians, are you supposed to follows blindly?

If he is illegally filling the White House, by usurping the Constitution, then his orders were ILLEGAL and it is his duty to refuse those orders.


95 posted on 07/15/2009 2:39:39 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: rubeng

They don’t. They didn’t when Clinton did it either.


99 posted on 07/15/2009 2:45:34 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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To: rubeng

As much as I wanted to support him, I couldn’t. As a retired military veteran Maj. Cook’s actions offended me - it seemed blatantly dishonest and not conduct as befits a member of the military. He had to know he was killing is military career - and he did, whether or not his commission is revoked - but if he was a defense contractor to boot - he had to at least suspect his security clearance would be revoked. Lastly, he had to know the negative effect of all this that would come - both in terms of morale for those already in the service some 40% of those who voted for Obama, misguided though they were - those who were thinking of joining the service, and those looking to dodge an deployment.

His heart may have been in the right place - but this was just plain not thought out at all, and reflected poorly on is judgement.

I know this will be unpopular - but right is right, and I can’t pretend otherwise.


106 posted on 07/15/2009 3:02:09 PM PDT by rudman
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To: rubeng

well, I can’t respond right away, they’ve got me on a delay here for whatever reason. LOL


156 posted on 07/15/2009 4:54:43 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: rubeng

>The Department of Defense can not and should not tolerate this type of behavior. Regardless of who the POTUS is, it is
>astonishing and disturbing here that people here are tolerating mutiny of our military.
>
>WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN, REMEMBER FOLKS?

Ever hear of the Nurmburg trials? There was an “I was following orders” defense that was soundly rejected; the governmental branches CANNOT now use the “It’s your orders, don’t question them” explanation/tactic now.


177 posted on 07/15/2009 6:11:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rubeng
WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN, REMEMBER FOLKS?

Then why does U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook not want to go there?

Is "Mudville Gazette"'s timeline correct:

March: Cook acknowledges he's among the plaintiffs in a class-action suit "on behalf of 120 military officers" challenging President Obama's authority as Commander in Chief.

In May, Cook tells the Army he wants to be sent to Afghanistan.

In June, the Army accepts Cooks offer.

In July, Cook sues to "get out" of that assignment, based on the same grounds (Obama not qualified) and using the same attorney (who actively seeks military members to participate in such suits) for a previous suit he was involved in that pre-dates his volunteering to deploy to Afghanistan.

Even without going to court, the Army says - essentially - hey, no problem. You were the one who wanted to go in the first place.

Actually, there is one "Major" problem. Because Cook waited to the last minute to take this action, either someone is going to get a very short notice non-volunteer assignment, or else the unit in Afghanistan will have to get by without one soldier for a while.


180 posted on 07/15/2009 6:30:05 PM PDT by saquin
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To: rubeng
WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN, WASHINGTON, DC REMEMBER FOLKS?

There, fixed it for you.

190 posted on 07/15/2009 7:11:39 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: rubeng
...it is astonishing and disturbing here that people here are tolerating mutiny of our military.

Not mutiny. Refusal to obey an unlawful order.

193 posted on 07/15/2009 7:40:35 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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