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Republicans Turn Hostile to Palin
American Spectator ^ | July 14, 2009 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 07/14/2009 5:57:24 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: RobinMasters

All BS they want her to run as a 3rd party because the will know we will all lose


61 posted on 07/14/2009 11:55:47 PM PDT by Three if by government
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To: Arguendo

no there isn’t


62 posted on 07/14/2009 11:56:38 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: RobinMasters

Separating the wheat from the chaff.


63 posted on 07/15/2009 12:00:09 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Three if by government

Exactly


64 posted on 07/15/2009 12:00:32 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: Clemenza

Sarah has demonstrated repeatedly her ability to talk beyond the media. Where have you been?


65 posted on 07/15/2009 12:02:41 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: Clemenza

What a stupid argument, like the republicans are going to (or need to)win the NE in a presidential election. Where’s your head at today?


66 posted on 07/15/2009 12:07:48 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: RobinMasters
Reports CNN:

Now that is a reliable News Outlet to rely on it, for impartiality on reporting the News!

Only 33 percent of Republicans questioned in a CBS News survey

Yet another fine and reputable News Outlet and totally impartial in delivering the raw News!

'Spectator, try to use other reputable News outlets next time, credible ones if you please!.

67 posted on 07/15/2009 12:37:42 AM PDT by danmar (Reason obeys itself,and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it! Thomas Paine)
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To: skinkinthegrass

With three years to go before the nominee is determined, it’s ridiculous to assume that our choices are restricted to Palin or Romney.


68 posted on 07/15/2009 4:26:32 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Chains you can believe in...)
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To: Arguendo

Since CBS and CNN have actually been caught lying in their past polls, I would tend to believe the Gannett (USA Today)poll because they have usually teamed up with a major REPUTABLE polling source.


69 posted on 07/15/2009 4:48:52 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Notary Sojac
With three years to go before the nominee is determined,
it’s ridiculous to assume that our choices are restricted to Palin or Romney.

true....but, would you prefer to keep Zer0Bambi (a horrid idea).


70 posted on 07/15/2009 5:59:58 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to Zer0's Peasant Care ® You Sucker... Now Die! :)
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To: free me

Yes there are. She doesn’t have much experience, and hasn’t demonstrated she has what it takes to be an effective leader of a large organization. She obviously understands a few issues, but especially last fall didn’t seem to have a very good understanding of many others. It’s not clear she’d be effective at the political side of national political office, dealing with the country as a whole (not just people who love her) and with Congress (which is one of the greatest difficulties any President faces).

None of these cannot be overcome, and none prove she would be ineffective, but as it stands now they are solid reasons to doubt she’d be effective that a conservative could perfectly reasonably hold.

When you deny that these weaknesses even exist—that a conservative can possibly believe these—you only make yourself appear ignorant.


71 posted on 07/15/2009 7:07:02 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: TommyDale

That is reasonable. I would not be at all surprised if 71% of Republicans would consider supporting Palin in the primary, though from the way the question was worded that support will obviosuly depend on who else is running.


72 posted on 07/15/2009 7:09:34 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Cementjungle

The “winnowing fork”.

People don’t have a choice, you will take a side, you cannot be neutral or indifferent.


73 posted on 07/15/2009 7:11:55 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: free me

If you rule out the Northeast and the Upper Midwest (which he also mentioned) right off the bat, you’re fighting a dangerous battle for the rest of the country. In retrospect, I don’t think Rove’s red-state-blue-state strategy was particularly effective. In contrast, the Democrats fought a 50-state strategy, and Obama ended up winning even Indiana, of all places. The Democrats are now competitive in almost every region of the country. Only 20 years ago, the Republicans certainly fought to be competitive in the Northeast and were fairly successful there.


74 posted on 07/15/2009 7:14:52 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo
but especially last fall didn’t seem to have a very good understanding of many others.

..sheer boulder-dash! *grinning*
....you must remember; (AK. Gov.) Palin was operating under rules/speeches
authored by Sen. "Strawberries" McPain and HIS handlers....

not hers....she was being "constrained" by rules/speeches
by "Strawberries" McPain; the head of the ticket.
HE sets "the character" of the campaign.


75 posted on 07/15/2009 7:25:36 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to Zer0's Peasant Care ® You Sucker... Now Die! :)
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To: Arguendo
In retrospect, I don’t think Rove’s red-state-blue-state strategy was particularly effective. In contrast, the Democrats fought a 50-state strategy, and Obama ended up winning even Indiana...

Much of the red state/blue state strategy was abrogated by John McCain, whose strategy was to diss the red states in the hope of gaining some blue states.

The Dems' fifty-state strategy was enabled by the "first black president" nonsense, which had appeal even in some red states (see Indiana).

Thus, the 2008 election didn't represent a changing of the electoral rules so much as it was an ad hoc match-up that's unlikely to be repeated ever again.

Come the next election, a John McCain won't be running (hopefully). And "the first black president" nonsense will no longer weave its magic.

76 posted on 07/15/2009 7:32:30 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

John McCain obviously didn’t help, but I think it was clear our strategy wasn’t working as early as 2006. Maybe if Bush had actually governed like a real conservative, conservative states would have stuck with him, but I still think as people move around the country and democraphics change we need a broader strategy.

For instance, if we completely write off the Northeast, we’re probably going to have to write off demographically similar Northern Virginia too, and Virginia’s supposed to be a “red” state. Ditto for Florida. And if we can’t win Virginia and Florida, we’re in a really weak position.


77 posted on 07/15/2009 7:54:05 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: RobinMasters

They’re really trying, aren’t they?


78 posted on 07/15/2009 7:55:23 AM PDT by Antoninus (I hereby pledge not to allow media whores to pick the GOP candidate in 2012.)
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To: RobinMasters

Republicans, but not conservatives.


79 posted on 07/15/2009 7:56:56 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Arguendo

I don’t agree with your characterization of Palin’s experience or demonstratd leadrship or grasp of the issues.

Thanks for elaborating though, I understand what you mean.


80 posted on 07/15/2009 8:26:09 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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