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Michelle Obama's father among those buried in Burr Oak cemetary
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Posted on 07/14/2009 10:08:23 AM PDT by harwood

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Just mentioned by Andrea Mitchell, who breathlessly reports this now gives the story a political angle...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: cemetery; flotusmichelle; obama; obamafamily
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To: listenhillary

interesting...obama probably connected somehow....


81 posted on 07/14/2009 11:40:48 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: mass55th

I have to ask....why? You wouldn’t know it. I don’t care what they do with my body when I’m done with it. It’s like moving out of a house. The house is empty.


82 posted on 07/14/2009 11:41:04 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Hardastarboard

ding ding we have a winner....


83 posted on 07/14/2009 11:44:21 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: hoosierham
Research European burial customs-it will be an eye-opener.

Over there burial plots in some areas are officially reused if the rent isn't paid etc.

Europe has dealt with this issue in many ways, including (as you mentioned) rent. But they've also used catacombs, astudans, and ossuaries. The Ossuary at Sedlec, Czech Republic (^) contains tens of thousands of skeletons.

If reburying a body elsewhere offends sensibilities, I wonder what people might think of their relatives being made into chandeliers, furniture, or architectural features?

The Mummies of Guanajuato, Mexico (^) exist because they were evicted from the cemetery they were originally interred in because their relatives couldn't or wouldn't pay the annual tax. The museum where they are displayed is open to this day, and are the focus of a tour in the United States.

Additionally, for many decades, traveling carnivals in the United States have had various corpses, some purporting to be various celebrities, criminals, or simply malformed humans. Until recently, we've had no problem whatsoever digging up Native American burial mounds or displaying mummies from other cultures. Not exactly respectful.

Americans of the past several hundred years are probably the most careful and respectful of the dead of any society.Which is why we are appalled by these grave-robbers.

Agreed. At the same time, we seem to toss that care and respect aside from time to time when it suits us.

84 posted on 07/14/2009 11:45:33 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney & his sons: members of the 1st Winnebago Motor Home Brigade, aka "The Fightin' RVs")
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To: hoosierham

some asian countrys also....i saw one (japan?) where the family goes years later to empty the grave of the bones to prepare it for future family use...i don’t remember what they did or do with the bones....


85 posted on 07/14/2009 11:55:52 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Actually, it implies that 4/16/99 was the last time she visited his grave.


86 posted on 07/14/2009 11:56:39 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Palin shrugged.)
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To: harwood

There’s something very evil about people who would defile graves like that.


87 posted on 07/14/2009 12:00:13 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Wow that is so appropriate on this thread, you are one heck of a funny guy!! Har! Har! /shakes head in disbelief


88 posted on 07/14/2009 12:33:58 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I don’t know but apparently the place was a bit ramshackle and it may have been hard to tell? I wonder if people had been complaining about irregularities, moved headstones, whatever, and just nothing was done until now?


89 posted on 07/14/2009 12:37:35 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: TexasCajun

That is just heartbreaking with that little girl. Bad enough to have a child die.


90 posted on 07/14/2009 12:41:27 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: visualops

So glad you enjoyed it. Look for more soon.


91 posted on 07/14/2009 1:03:51 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (ELECTION 2010 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF OUR LIFETIME! If you have to ask why, UR part of the problem!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"I have to ask....why? You wouldn’t know it."

I think it's more a waste of money to me than anything else. Why spend all that money on a coffin, a vault, the plot, the headstone? I'd rather my kids get the money. I know what it costs to have myself cremated, and it's much less than being buried. I don't even want calling hours. I've gone through all that with family members. I told my kids to just take my ashes, and the ashes of my three cats, and release them somewhere. I figure if Obama can do it with his grandmother's ashes, my kids can do it with mine.

I've been through many cemeteries in my life. Many are old, overgrown, and uncared for. Then there's cemeteries like Mt. Auburn in Cambridge, Mass., which is more of a wildlife refuge/botanical garden, than a cemetery. Some families have mausoleums, some elaborate headstones, with ornate wrought iron fencework. Back then they were designed to be memorials to their loved ones. Today, they're looked upon as works of art. Also, many people paid for perpetual care for their plots, and more than likely, there aren't even any family members left to visit them.

92 posted on 07/14/2009 1:56:42 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Well, you’ll still need a coffin. They cremate it right along with you. But I hear what you’re saying. The only good thing about funerals is that it gives the family a chance to be together and it let’s them get used to the idea of having lost someone. That’s important in the case of sudden death or a young person. Grieving is important but a lot of the extraneous stuff is a scam.


93 posted on 07/14/2009 2:07:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I don’t think BAW was saying we shouldn’t post and discuss the story. Just that we should watch out mouths. BAW is quite correct that this story should be off limits for politically motivated rude comments.

Exactly. You phrased it much better than I did. Thank you.

94 posted on 07/14/2009 4:18:25 PM PDT by BAW (Fire David Letterman)
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To: PA Engineer
The entire tip toeing around "racism" has enabled this crime. Ignoring the digging up of the remains of families and reburying them again in mass graves is an honorable act and worthy of respect?

There was no racist intent, in fact no thought to racism at all. I don't know where you got that idea.

My caution simply reflects that the dead deserve respect. I can't imagine the grief and violation I might feel if my departed relatives were in this same cemetery. I wish to extend the same dignity to others as I would hope them to extend to me had these same events happened at my family's burial plot.

95 posted on 07/14/2009 4:26:40 PM PDT by BAW (Fire David Letterman)
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