Posted on 07/14/2009 10:06:12 AM PDT by ckilmer
I had posted that about 5-6 months ago here. Speculation is great fun!
A poster over at World Net Daily found Hawaii government information from way back in 1961 in which Hawaii explained how it classified race and ethnic groups.
Below is an excerpt from that Hawaii government information.
I'm not sure what it means, but the classification of "African" as is found on the Obama Hawaii birth certificate that we see on the internet is NOT found in the Hawaii government classification.
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Race and color
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father.
The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian.
In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used.
Completeness of birth registration in 1961 for "white" births is estimated to be 99.3 percent and for "nonwhite" births, 96.6 percent.
The most recent figures for other groups are from the 1950 test which indicated registration completeness at that time to be 85.1 percent for American Indians and 97.4 percent for ''other races," chiefly Chinese and Japanese.
Both figures are probably higher for 1961, but more precise estimates are not available.
A comparison of the race designation in matched sets of birth certificates and census records from the 1950 registration completeness'test indicates very high agreement for white persons and Negroes. There were, however, substantially fewer American Indians recorded on birth records than on census records.
The real goal of all these Obama eligibility lawsuits is not to throw President Obama out of office before the 2012 presidential elections, although it would be great if just one of these lawsuits unexpectedly caused President Obama to resign.
Of course, Obama could quickly and easily end these lawsuits if only he would allow Hawaii to show us his long form birth certificate from 1961; give his Hawaii birth hospital permission to tell us that he was born there; and let us examine his college records from Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard.
1. To me, an important goal of these many lawsuits, if Obama won't ever reveal his long form birth certificate and his college records, is to make it so uncomfortable and exhausting for Obama---as he faces lawsuit after lawsuit day after day during the final 3 years of his presidency---that Obama will have no choice but to decline to run for office again in 2012.
2. Myself, I don't have any hope that this judge will help the anti-Obama people in this lawsuit, because I don't see the Los Angeles judge doing anything different than other judges have done before him on this Obama eligibility mess: He will probably find a legal reason for dismissing the lawsuit.
3. But the judge's expected decision in favor of Obama doesn't really matter, because our goal is to keep putting pressure on Obama over and over again about this eligibility issue during the next 3 years right up to the 2012 presidential primaries and further.
4. Guess what. When Obama runs for office in the 2011-2012 right up to the Democratic Convention in 2012, he will have to run just like any other candidate who runs for President of the United States, that is, he will not have special treatment just because he happens to be President of the United States.
5.He will no doubt face question after question about where he was born and about why he won't release his college records.
6. But this second time around will much different for the community organizer-state senator than the first time he ran for president in 2008.
7. That is, he won't get a free pass as to his eligibility status.
8. For instance, there is a good chance that Obama will have to face even more and more court challenges to his eligibility status during the campaign of 2012.
9. But this time during the 2011-2012 campaign, Obama could be so EXHAUSTED from facing today's lawsuits day after day, he might NOT have any stomach or energy left to face more eligibility lawsuits if he decides to run again.
10. And if I am not mistaken, it will be Obama the private citizen who will have to fight those many eligibility lawsuits that Obama will no doubt face if he decides to run in the 2011-2012 primaries.
Again, fighting such lawsuits could cost Obama million, although I bet Obama would receive financial help from his rich democratic party friends.
11. My point is this: I believe that the Los Angeles judge will find some legal reason why he will dismiss the Obama eligibility lawsuit like the other judges before him have done.
12. But it doesn't matter, because our real objective is to keep putting pressure on Obama day after day with new lawsuits during Obama's first term over the next 3 years so that Obama will not have the energy, the finances, nor the stomach to face even more eligibility lawsuits and questions about where he was born and about his college records.
13. If I were Obama, I would be a little frightened by the thought that I will have to fight numerous lawsuits over and over again during the 2012 presidential again that question my eligibility to be President of the United States.
14. And remember, the eligibility lawsuits of the 2012 presidential campaign will be much more sophisticated than the lawsuits of today, because the lawsuits of 2012 will have learned from the mistakes of the eligibility lawsuits that will be filed during Obama's presidency of 2009-2012.
15. Again, I expect the Los Angeles judge to quickly dismiss this lawsuit like other judges have dismissed Obama eligibility lawsuits in the past.
If this case or any case goes to discovery, and it is found that Obama was born overseas. And having a a foreign national as a father along with a British and Kenyan citizen at birth along with picking up a Indonesian citizenship along the way. There would be NO doubt Obama would NOT be a Natural Born United States Citizen. The case would be an open and shut case against Obama all the way to the Supreme Court. The end of his presidency.
We must make sure that every person who steps up to run, regardless of party, is asked in a public forum if they will allow their birth certificate to be released by the issuing state for inspection until it is clear that the only candidate that will not is 0bama. Those running against him will eventually ask, "why not?".
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