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The Economy Is Even Worse Than You Think
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 14, 2009 | Mortimer Zuckerman

Posted on 07/14/2009 8:56:40 AM PDT by reaganaut1

The recent unemployment numbers have undermined confidence that we might be nearing the bottom of the recession. What we can see on the surface is disconcerting enough, but the inside numbers are just as bad.

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Here are 10 reasons we are in even more trouble than the 9.5% unemployment rate indicates:

- June's total assumed 185,000 people at work who probably were not. The government could not identify them; it made an assumption about trends. [...]

- More companies are asking employees to take unpaid leave. These people don't count on the unemployment roll.

- No fewer than 1.4 million people wanted or were available for work in the last 12 months but were not counted. Why? Because they hadn't searched for work in the four weeks preceding the survey.

- The number of workers taking part-time jobs due to the slack economy, a kind of stealth underemployment, has doubled in this recession to about nine million, or 5.8% of the work force. [...]

- The average work week for rank-and-file employees in the private sector, roughly 80% of the work force, slipped to 33 hours. [...]

- The average length of official unemployment increased to 24.5 weeks, the longest since government began tracking this data in 1948. [...]

- The average worker saw no wage gains in June, with average compensation running flat at $18.53 an hour.

- The goods producing sector is losing the most jobs -- 223,000 in the last report alone.

- The prospects for job creation are equally distressing. [...]

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoeconomy; democrats; hopeychangey; obama; recession; second100days; unemployment; zuckerman
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To: reaganaut1

Always liked the WSJ.


21 posted on 07/14/2009 9:26:55 AM PDT by taxtruth
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To: reaganaut1

How is that “hopeee, changeee thing” working out for you all?!!!


22 posted on 07/14/2009 9:29:18 AM PDT by mr_hammer (SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM)
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To: reaganaut1
Predicting the economy by reference to unemployment numbers is to drive by looking in the rearview mirror.

We may be skidding into a cataclysm but the unemployment numbers will not help us know that. They will lag the recovery by 6 to 18 months-or the nadir for that matter.


23 posted on 07/14/2009 9:29:42 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: don'tbedenied

What points in the article do you disagree with? Can you cite opposing evidence?

Not trying to start a FR fight here, just wondering which points aren’t accurate.


24 posted on 07/14/2009 9:30:16 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: 21twelve
Well the liberals have their Keynesian nirvana, they are spending trillions in their grand experiment. They own this, they have their control environment. No nagging Republican Congress or pesky ex-actor President. They have all the socialist Ivy league intelligentsia running things, with their Czars and commissions. The hippies have what they want, they run things on almost every level with the exception of what Maureen Dowd calls, “The Southern Twang States”. Well now they say 13% unemployment and economic malaise. My prediction of a 45% approval rating by election day 2010 maybe kinda high.
25 posted on 07/14/2009 9:30:25 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: mikelets456
there should be some sort of “number” for that.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)tracks Employment, Hours, and Earnings. They are three separate numbers, but could be rolled into one "labor income" number. Here are the Average hours and earnings numbers

26 posted on 07/14/2009 9:32:39 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: NMEwithin
No worries...Geitner says the recession will be over in months...lol

When Turbid Timmy said it would be over in "months" did he mention how many how many months, like 12, 120, or 1,200 months. He might have been more believable if he had said "some day soon".

27 posted on 07/14/2009 9:33:15 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: frogjerk
CHART OF THE DAY: We've Wiped Out All The New Jobs Of The 21st Century


28 posted on 07/14/2009 9:35:10 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: MediaMole

Oh, yeah....we’ve already made plans....my husband’s 58...so it’s looking like early retirement is coming....he’s planning for it by years end. Feel sorry for younger people who haven’t had the time to invest/save like we have......course who knows what will happen to our “savings”


29 posted on 07/14/2009 9:39:10 AM PDT by goodnesswins (For lease)
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To: John123

“Geitner says the recession will be over in months”

He is right.
In a few months it will be a DEPRESSION.


30 posted on 07/14/2009 9:44:03 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: poindexter

um, anybody in congress take a 20% pay cut?


31 posted on 07/14/2009 9:45:13 AM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: nathanbedford
Predicting the economy by reference to unemployment numbers is to drive by looking in the rearview mirror.

That's true, but the ineptitude in gathering and/or deliberate obfuscation of the data by Obama Inc. is what's really troubling.

32 posted on 07/14/2009 9:52:18 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: mikelets456

only 5 percent cut here, but I don’t make much anyway, so it’s a big hit.

Don’t know what I would do with 10 or 20 percent.....second job time then.


33 posted on 07/14/2009 9:52:58 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

The “Costanza ruling” It’s not a lie if you believe it.

Too funny. I have to use it and often.


34 posted on 07/14/2009 9:53:26 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: goodnesswins
“who knows what will happen to our “savings””

The Democrats are spending at a pace never before seen in the history of mankind.

“The deficit of $1.09 trillion so far this year compares to an imbalance of $285.85 billion through the same period a year ago.”

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090714/D99DSUG00.html

I'll tell you one thing, inflation is coming back with a vengeance. A chemical I buy for my business was $49.00 for 25 pounds January 5, 2009. Now it is $54.00 for 25 pounds. That is an annualized inflation rate of 17%. Who knows what it will be if cap and tax goes through.

If it goes much higher, I may just shut down and go for early retirement.

35 posted on 07/14/2009 9:57:47 AM PDT by Gabrial (Obama Lied - The Republic Died)
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To: frogjerk

Ah ha then it must be W fault cause he didn’t create enough jobs in the first place.

/S


36 posted on 07/14/2009 10:01:01 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: mikelets456; goodnesswins; MediaMole

No increase, no bonus, elimination of 401K matching and I have to take a week’s furlough for a week of my choice. Still, I feel blessed to have a good paying job with a good company. There are many fellow Americans who have exhausted their unemployment benefits and are staring down the barrel of a really tough winter.


37 posted on 07/14/2009 10:04:09 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Perhaps we need a Costanza ruling. It’s not a lie if you believe it.

Might as well. Obama is already trying another Costanza tactic with his doing everything opposite to what has worked many times in the past to stimulate the economy.

It's gonna be a long eight years.

38 posted on 07/14/2009 10:06:07 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (Obama needs to learn that you can't help 15% by ruining it for the other 85%.)
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To: frogjerk
The cumulative job losses over the last six months have been greater than for any other half year period since World War II, including the military demobilization after the war. The job losses are also now equal to the net job gains over the previous nine years, making this the only recession since the Great Depression to wipe out all job growth from the previous expansion.

I was about to paste these excerpts, you nailed the key phrases.

Why isn't this front page news? Bam has wrecked any chance of a recovery. Capntax, free healthcare and amnesty will wreck our country.

We have 6 months, if we don't stop these things dead in their tracks things will never be the same.

schu

39 posted on 07/14/2009 10:06:40 AM PDT by schu
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To: TADSLOS
You're absolutely right!

And the rank cronyism in Goldman Sachs is a crime of growing proportions. General Electric is another probable area of cronyism and perhaps even outright trade-offs. With no government entity and scarcely any media outlet willing to even look at these matters, the Obama administration is waxing more arrogant everyday.

Hubris comes before the fall, the question is whether the fall will be the Obama administration or the whole American edifice.


40 posted on 07/14/2009 10:11:11 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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