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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; ReneeLynn

You should say whatever is on your mind. I support that even if I can’t agree with you in total.

Bob J, you, ReneeLynn (who I pinged in here since she referred me to it), and I each want a conservative to represent us in 2012. We want one to help get conservatives elected in 2010 too. And the best candidate to do that, will be someone who has less baggage to carry around in 2010.

That’s the reason why I was disappointed in Palin stepping down. You and I can understand why she did. We’re conservatives. Of course we will. As I have said to others, we simply cannot get Sarah elected on our own.

Independents and Democrats who saw Bill and Hillary Clinton get skewered for eight years and hang in there, are not going to be particularly impressed by Sarah taking darts for two and a half years and bailing. And yes I do think Bill was a crook and Sarah is not. And yes I saw them target her family like a bunch of animals, it’s not me you have to win over. It’s going to be the Independents and Democrats who won’t see her justification for stepping down as anything other than whining. And even if I don’t believe it can be relegated to that, my opinion doesn’t count. Palin would get my vote if she were running. It’s theirs that is very important if we want to see her be President.

No, Duncan and Fred didn’t get it done. You’re changing subjects. Nothing they did or said will mitigate what Sarah Palin has done, good or bad, so they just don’t count here.

What trap? Look, if you’re going to use terms like that, they must be universally accepted. No Independents or Democrats are going to see a sitting Governor as existing in a trap simply because they are tasked with fulfilling the job the voters elected them to do. And once again, no amount of what the Independents and Democrats are going to see as whining, will change that.

Bob is not asking you to understand this. I am. You may not like the dynamics we face as a party with regard to Palin, but I am. Die hard loyalty is admirable if it’s going to get you to the promised land. Die hard loyalty to someone who may have fatally shot their political future in the head, as it relates to Independents and Democrats is not.

Couple the decision to step down with the announcement of plans to keep the Democrats in the majority, even if couched with conservative intent, still leaves Pelosi in control of the House agenda. That’s a non-starter for me.

I don’t necessarily ask you to agree, but it’s something you should at the very least consider.


83 posted on 07/11/2009 12:08:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Couple the decision to step down with the announcement of plans to keep the Democrats in the majority, even if couched with conservative intent, still leaves Pelosi in control of the House agenda. That’s a non-starter for me.”

The points of our disagreement seem to be the ‘assumptions’ being made. The assumption that Palin supporters are blind. The assumption that Sarah has screwed her political career by resigning. And the assumption that Sarah is now going to go out and support just any old Democrat against any Republican. I don’t support any of those assumptions.


93 posted on 07/11/2009 12:41:37 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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