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To: Jim Noble
The Republican party is dead as a national organization, and I hope SP and her people know it. The sooner the GOP is given a decent burial, the sooner we can get started.

It's easier to rebuild common sense conservatism from the party and place where most common sense conservatives reside. You would disagree? What would Ronald Reagan think? What did Ronald Reagan do?

The opinion that we should "bury the Republican party" and the opinion that "the Republican Party can do no wrong" I believe are opinions that represent two sides of the same coin. The first opinion is partisan in its hate for the Republican party regardless of how reckless that hate is while the second opinion is partisan for its unconditional love of the Republican party regardless of how damaging that could be. In both cases, it's only the "R" that seems to matter.

I believe the best place to start building a common sense conservative coalition is the same place where most of that coalition currently resides. That place happens to be the Republican party.

387 posted on 07/11/2009 11:25:26 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
"believe the best place to start building a common sense conservative coalition is the same place where most of that coalition currently resides. That place happens to be the Republican party."

Nope, they had a whole hell of a lot of power from 1994-2006 and blew it!

They need to go the way of the Whigs.

From my understanding of the Whig party history a large portion left when it died and became Republican.

This is not meant to provoke I'm just fueling the debate that needs to happen.

At some point I may be persuaded to change my mind but, If we get another McCain as the nominee in 2012 it's over people.

425 posted on 07/11/2009 11:40:23 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: FreeReign
The first opinion is partisan in its hate for the Republican party regardless of how reckless that hate

That's left-wing talk. I don't "hate" the GOP, but I recognize a corpse when I see it.

There are (apparently) parts of the country where a GOP organization is viable. I live in a part of the country where that's not true.

The number of states where there are a) lots of conservatives, and, b) no viable GOP organization, continue to grow and grow,

Do you know that in North Dakota, where George W. Bush got >60% of the vote, that BOTH of their Democrat senators ran unopposed?

That is as if the Democrats let two Republicans run unopposed for the Senate seats in California, or Massachusetts.

It's more and more difficult to find GOP candidates in easily winnable races. The ones we DO find are secret Democrats like Crist or Christie.

We couldn't nominate a Presidential candidate, a real one, in 2008. The party chairman is a leftist. There are large and important parts of the country where the party effectively does not exist.

Wake up and smell the coffee. The party's OVER. It's time to do something different.

506 posted on 07/11/2009 12:44:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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