John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save planet

http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/ ^ | 7/10/2009

[MHGinTN]

Make that his Jan 17, ‘08 speech.

[verity]

That is not an acceptable reply to my question.

[freekitty]

They are fools. A country that has given them every opportunity they try to destroy.

[MHGinTN]

The following is presented early on as axiomatic in his 1/17/08 speech. Think of how this notion is now being implimented with the recently passed cap and tax bill:
"We need a price on greenhouse gas emissions in order to motivate reaching higher into the tree, and we need research and development to bring more fruit into reach. And the final key point is that the United States has to switch from being a laggard in addressing this problem to being a leader, and we need to switch sooner rather than later if the world as a whole is to act in time to avoid catastrophic interference in the climate system."

I'm not going to do all your homework for you to answer your generic question. You will have to think, not just play contrarian.

[AnnaZ]

Thanks for the ping. Mind-boggling stuff. Zombietime, as always, rocks.

[usmom]

Anyone nervous about Obamacare’s coming mandatory swine flu shots?

Um- do a quick google on tetanus shots and HcG. All they do is put HcG (pregnancy hormone) into any vaccine and women will then reject any pregnancy i.e. be ‘vaccinated against pregnancy. It can and has been done and the news/technology is at least 20 years old. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=30169 The company that did it was caught after women in the area started miscarrying in mass rates and claimed they didn’t know how the HcG got in there. Who are they targeting with this first round of ‘swine flu’ shots: school kids, pregnant women, young healthy people (since they say older people already may have some kind of immunity). This is not kooky conspiracy talk- it’s so obvious that you’d be stupid not to see it.

[MHGinTN]

In the segment from his speech, dealing with mitigation of gloabl warming, the following is offered matter of factly by Holdern:
"We could reduce the growth of energy use by reducing population growth, by reducing the growth of GDP per person, or by reducing the ratio of energy to GDP."

[usmom]

Oh, and also, do you notice the new push for vaccines for adolescents/teenagers/young women and generally people entering their prime reproductive years? It used to be you got a few shots before kindergarten or first grade and that was pretty much it. Now they want girls to get HPV ‘vaccine’ before puberty and into their 20’s, a whole round of stuff at 11-12, another dPt (Tetanus!) before high school and more before college. Alarm bells anyone?

[MHGinTN]

And the following assertion by Holdern seems to be what is guiding the current cap and tax elgislation! ...
"I believe the only politically acceptable basis for a global agreement will be equal per-capita emissions rights, which means people who are emitting above the allowable global average will have to pay people who are emitting below the allowable global average for their emissions permits."

[editor-surveyor]

Nothing new here.

These tyrants have gone into over-reach mode before. Remember Carrol Quigley’s Tragedy and Hope?

People are numbskulls for the most part; they don’t begin to defend until they’re defeated. The death culture has the news media in their pocket, along with 3/4 of the Democrat party and 1/3 of the Rebublican party, so they feel confident.

Prayer is as it always has been, our only effective weapon; will we use it?

[Albion Wilde]

A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.

Why, pray tell, is that? Because men can run faster? Because the gubmint has made sure that no woman will have a male protector?

Leftists are soulless ghouls.

[Albion Wilde]

Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise...

Gay and lesbian couples will receive affirmative action preferences.

[Albion Wilde]

Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise

Wait a minute; let me get this straight. Liberals say that abstinence education is useless because teens will have sex anyway, so they should be taught all about sex and birth control; but that the babies that result from not being taught abstinence can be seized by the liberal government.

Morons. Evil morons.

[Munz]

I am just aghast ... this is like something right out of a nut house conspiracy theory type scenario - trying to educate people and get the word out on this would be imposable.

I mean how can you tell people this and not be labeled a nut?

[justiceseeker93]

If there is a population crisis in the US, it is largely the result of immigration, not the natural growth of the native population. So there is absolutely no need for draconian in-your-face government measures, as suggested by this Obamaton, to control the problem.

The solution would be relatively non-intrusive for American citizens: allow less legal immigration and enforce the law against illegal immigrants by deporting them. While we're at it, we can build up border security. And yes, Mr. Holden, that solution is clearly constitutional; immigration control is within the enumerated powers of the United States Congress.

BTW, we've probably never heard of this Holden before because Obama snuck him into a job that doesn't require Senate confirmation - he made him a "czar".

[Albion Wilde]

While I understand your reaction to having traveled in the overpopulated far East, it never fails to amaze me that men always arrive at the idea of killing babies instead of the idea of spreading an ethic of male chastity before marriage, sexual continence within marriage and responsibility for their own reproductive choices on a shrinking planet.

Instead, it's unlimited free rides for males, and sterilization for the females, aborting their pregnancies by force, seizing their newborns, etc.

[DTogo]

Go spend some time in Tokyo and see what it's like.

Have, loved it, would move back in a flash.

Your posts are your opinions, which you are welcome to.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Albion Wilde]

He is not alone. Just one of the many who are misled into believing that either God or nature -- including human nature's drive to overcome any adversity -- will be insufficient. ...The many places on the globe where population is indeed a problem have also been where men have not been permitted the freedom to solve their own problems...

Exactly. But when Christian missionaries attempted to help downtrodden peoples develop personal responsibility and sexual morality, the lefties screamed "cultural imperialism!"

Now the lefties are spreading Freudian Sex'n'Death cultism, Birth Control and Abortion Imperialism, Materialist Consumer Imperialism and Entertainment Imperialism, but that's ok. God isn't the prince of those empires.

[383rr]

http://www.questia.com/library/book/ecoscience-population-resources-environment-by-anne-h-ehrlich-paul-r-ehrlich-john-p-holdren.jsp

Here’s the sick eugenic tome in question.