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To: a_Turk
"No"

With my limited intellect, would you mind if I take a few years to research your deep and complex response to my very simple statement on Muslim animosity to the USA's irrational protection of the global population of Muslim haters of America?

In my opinion, the sooner the USA lets Muslims chart their own destiny without intervention, the sooner you all will understand what the price of freedom is...

34 posted on 07/11/2009 9:26:59 PM PDT by uncommonsense
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To: uncommonsense

Trust me, we know something about the price of freedom in Turkey. We had to fight the WW1 allies off with pitchforks. All you have to do is look up Galippoli for a taste. And then the war of independence that followed the Ottoman sultan’s defeat in WW1.

Things are not so easy to comprehend as they may seem. It’s ok to take a deep breath or two and rethink. Yes, there are many who hate the USA all around the word. And that’s for precisely the same reasons why many people hate us Turks. Empires, physical or economical are not made by smiles and kisses. Many are hurt, killed or assimilated. And then these people hate you - that’s all there is to it. And they pass that hate on to their own kids.

These people in China have nothing to do with America hating muslims. They are a peopl resisting assimilation by their conquerors. These are their last death throes - God have mercy on them.

Meanwhile, my American brothers are far too filled with hate toward the Muslim to be able to do an good in the war against terror. Sad but true, far more people are going to hate you after this last wave of warfare. Your non-coms hate Muslims, the very people they are supposed to help save.

Washington and Franklin must be sore from turning in their graves for the past few decades.


35 posted on 07/12/2009 6:02:43 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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In a sense, the Uighurs have fallen prey to two conceptions of things. There’s the post-9/11 American idea that Afghanistan was a terrorist haven, headquarters of Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Because that was indeed the case, it seems logical that any non-Afghan Muslims in the country, the Uighurs included, must have been in association with these international terrorist entities, as Mr. Webb put it. That view gains some credibility because there have been terrorist attacks in Xinjiang carried out by Uighur nationalists.

But the reality is quite different, said Alim Seytoff, the vice president of the Uighur-American Association. Over the years, he said by telephone, many young Uighur men, fearing political persecution and also needing jobs, have tried to go overland from Xinjiang to other countries, with Turkey, whose language the Uighurs can understand, a highly desired destination. Many of them, unable to get visas to Turkey, have ended up in Afghanistan, which shares a strip of border with Xinjiang, living in a village that has been wrongly portrayed as a terrorist training camp — a portrayal very much encouraged by China.

And that is the second conception of things, the Chinese one, that has influenced the American debate.

“Especially after 9/11,” Mr. Seytoff said, “since Uighurs are Muslim, the Chinese government hijacked the purpose of the global war on terrorism, to portray Uighur displeasure with their brutal rule as terrorism.”
38 posted on 07/15/2009 4:41:23 AM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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