[alarm rider]

I have to be truthful here. I think it is high time we played the game like the lefties play the game, only with more gravitas. I am tired of being told “we are above all this”, “”we can't become them”, “we are better then them”.

It's a different day folks, stuff has changed. It's not working, we need to be more aggressive, not less aggressive. They are fearful of a vocal and an aggressive smack down. It's time we put the fear into their dark hearts. I refuse to be timid in the face of this leftist crap, and I will die on my feet before I live on my knees.

Stand up dammit.

[ozarkgirl]

I have to be truthful here. I think it is high time we played the game like the lefties play the game, only with more gravitas. I am tired of being told “we are above all this”, “”we can't become them”, “we are better then them”.

It's a different day folks, stuff has changed.

So you think it's okay for the libs to go after Sarah's kids? Or you think it's okay to go after zero's kids because "they" went after Sarah's kids. I'll say one thing about the Obama's, they have more class than their followers. I've not heard them say anything bad about Sarah Palin or her kids.

[Smokin' Joe]

I think it is high time we played the game like the lefties play the game, only with more gravitas.

We can't. They will play the 'victim' card, and the 'race' card and use that to silence us (recall Ann Coulter's discussion of "victims" and how they use their "victimhood" as a weapon to silence dissent).

We can make the same points about almost anything they do, but we can't be as ugly and hateful about it as they are--and we cannot do it in such a way that they can use our delivery of concept as a weapon against us to silence us.

That is their objective, not debate, not just harrassment, but looking for an excuse to muzzle us, completely and permanently--to eliminate opposition.

We can politely say we dislike the way the members of the 'first' family represented America, how they appeared declasse, how it is a pity some of the money spent on $5K purses wasn't spent on the daughter's wardrobe, maybe someone could reccommend a better thrift store, etc., but the second someone makes a remark which can be construed as "racist", we lose.

Enough of those remarks and we won't be making them on the web, because that will become the ammo used by the Obamites when they purge "hate" sites from the web.

You already know how the "hate" thing works--look at the rules for a crime being a "hate crime". There isn't a level spot on the playing field.

This is a war of wits, and we'd better use the tools appropriate to the venue.

If it ever gets more bare knuckle than that, we can take the gloves off and use whatever is necessary, but we are not there yet.