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Jobless Claims Indicate Economy Remains Weak [Record Near 7 million on Unemployment]
JSOnline ^ | July 9, 2009 | Christopher Rugaber

Posted on 07/09/2009 3:33:54 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

WASHINGTON, DC -- Even though new claims for jobless benefits fell more than expected last week, dipping below 600,000 for the first time since early January, the number of Americans seeking this safety net points to an economy that is still very weak.

Layoffs are slowing, but jobs are scarce, leaving nearly 7 million Americans collecting unemployment checks and retailers looking for customers.

The number of newly laid-off workers requesting unemployment insurance fell by 52,000 to a seasonally-adjusted 565,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. But the drop was mostly due to a shift in the timing of auto-related layoffs, leading many economists to discount the decline.

Weekly claims remain far above the 300,000-350,000 range that analysts say is consistent with a healthy economy. New claims last fell below 300,000 in early 2007. The lowest level this year was 488,000 for the week ended Jan. 3.

Thursday's figure indicates that "very steep job losses" likely will continue and that the unemployment rate will keep rising, said Zach Pandl, an economist at Nomura Securities International.

Claims may not drop to 350,000 until the middle of next year, he said.

Employers cut 467,000 jobs in June, more than analysts expected, while the unemployment rate rose to 9.5 percent, the highest in 25 years. The lack of jobs is limiting consumer spending, which will weaken or even delay any economic recovery.

Retailers reported yet another sluggish month of sales in June, increasing concerns about the critical back-to-school season. Among the most worrisome signs were the sharp sales declines from mall-based shops that cater to teens like Abercrombie & Fitch and American Eagle Outfitters, indicating that parents will keep scouring for bargains at discount chains.

The International Council of Shopping Centers-Goldman Sachs same-store sales tally for June fell 5.1 percent from a year ago, steeper than 4.5 percent decline that analysts expected. Same-store sales - sales at stores open at least a year - are considered a key indicator of a retailer's health.

The results marked the 11th consecutive month of same-store sales decreases, and some analysts expect that trend to continue through the rest of the year as consumer spending is constrained by tight credit and a weak job market.

Meanwhile, the number of people on the jobless benefit rolls jumped 159,000 to 6.88 million, the Labor Department said. That's the highest tally on records dating from 1967. Continuing claims had fallen in two of the previous three weeks. The data lag initial claims by a week.

Economists said the increase showed employers remain hesitant to add new workers, despite some recent signs the economy is stabilizing.

"The problem is, no one is hiring," said Mark Vitner, senior economist at Wells Fargo Securities.

That will likely keep driving up the unemployment rate even as layoffs slow, he said. Wells Fargo projects the rate will peak at 10.5 percent next year.

Continuing claims need to drop by at least 500,000 before the jobless rate will improve, Vitner said. In a healthy economy, the continuing claims rolls are closer to 3 million, or less than half their current total.

Vitner expects the economy to grow modestly in the second half of this year, but that doesn't mean many jobs will be available. "Just because the recession ends doesn't mean the economy is out of the woods," he said.

When federal and state emergency programs are added, the total benefit rolls are even higher.

More than 2.8 million people are receiving unemployment insurance under the programs, which add up to 53 weeks of benefits on top of the typical 26 weeks. The data for the emergency programs lags the initial claims by two weeks. All told, about 8.9 million people received jobless benefits the week ending June 20.

Economists are closely watching the level of first-time claims for signs the economy will recover in the second half of this year.

But the change in the timing of auto layoffs will likely muddy the picture for several weeks. Carmakers usually close their plants in early July to prepare for next year's models, causing a spike in layoffs. But those cuts took place in May and June instead as General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC sought bankruptcy protection and implemented sweeping restructuring plans.

The financial markets ended Thursday with modest gains. The Dow Jones industrial average added about 5 points to 8,183.17, while broader indices also ticked up.

Elsewhere, the Commerce Department said wholesale inventories dipped 0.8 percent in May, slightly smaller than the 1 percent decline economists expected.

Sales at the wholesale level rose 0.2 percent, better than the expected flat reading. The hope is that sales will soon stabilize and help convince businesses that they need to restock, a shift that will boost the ailing manufacturing sector.

Consumers and businesses have cut back on spending in response to the bursting of the housing bubble and the financial crisis, sending the economy into the longest recession since World War II.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: thecomingdepression
Higest unemployment rate since 1967. 1967! Think Katie will mention this on the c-BS Evening News? *SMIRK*
1 posted on 07/09/2009 3:33:54 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

She does not remember 67” was too busy doing other things!!


2 posted on 07/09/2009 3:38:31 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You’re such a negative Nancy.

What about the 93 million people who DO have jobs, huh?

Why can’t we ever talk about that?


3 posted on 07/09/2009 3:50:28 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: handy old one; All

Well, I was only 7 years old in 1967, but my Dad was already teaching me to play the commodities market and Grandpa was constantly droning on and on about saving at LEAST 20% of you paycheck each week, LOL!

However, I grew up to survive the Carter Administration. Dang! I was 16 years old, just had gotten my driver’s license, had free use of the beater pick-up truck for my tenn escapades...and there was no gasoline to be found! Can you imagine our teens and 20-somethings putting up with that today? LOL!

My folks were always very open about household finances and I knew that they were paying outrageous interest rates on their mortgage; until Grandpa bought it...that saving 20% of your income DID come in handy, Eh? ;) God Bless Him! I miss him EVERY day!

Some of my favorite teachers were sent to Vietnam; my Uncles were also sent. It was a VERY unsettling time. I joined the Army in 1977 when I was 18; many thought I was nuts because the wound of Vietnam was still not healed for so many.

If you think THAT doesn’t leave an impression on a teenager, you’ve got another thing coming, LOL!

I’ve hated the Left ever since. They ruined EVERY bit of fun I could’ve had as a teen what with no gasoline, a Hostage Crisis and my Uncles and teachers dodging bullets.

It wasn’t sex, drugs and rock-n-roll for my teen years. Heck, it wasn’t even Dancing Shoes and ‘cruising’ on a Saturday night...no money for shoes or gasoline.

Jerks.

Am I the ONLY Child of the 70’s here? I can’t possibly be!


4 posted on 07/09/2009 3:51:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

“What about the 93 million people who DO have jobs, huh? Why can’t we ever talk about that?”

You DU Mole. ;)


5 posted on 07/09/2009 3:51:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There are more they are just not on right now. My baby brother is just younger than you are and I am 4 years older than you.


6 posted on 07/09/2009 4:00:21 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

14+/- million unemployed....14+/- million.


7 posted on 07/09/2009 4:05:41 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Nope. Child of 70’s here, too.


8 posted on 07/09/2009 4:05:54 PM PDT by CH3CN
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“What about the 93 million people who DO have jobs, huh? Why can’t we ever talk about that?”

Yep, those are the ones working 33 hrs avg per week, another near all-time low!

Isn’t Hope and Change wonderful?

http://www.bls.gov/web/ceshighlights.pdf


9 posted on 07/09/2009 4:11:01 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Exactly!

I’m just coming off of my busy season at work; 50 hour weeks are the NORM from Jan-June.

Only 33 hours at work a week sounds heavenly; but I am VERY careful about what I wish for THESE days. :(


10 posted on 07/09/2009 6:41:36 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
there's also 2.5 million positions available.

40% of people leaving jobs in May 2009 - quit.

11 posted on 07/09/2009 7:48:54 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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To: stylin19a

Wow. To live the lush life at taxpayer expense, you think?

This administration certainly DOES have it @ss-backwards; punish prosperity and success and reward sloth!

BTW - where does that figure come from, and what kinds of jobs are they? Shovel-ready? LOL!

Quite often one of our local Talk Radio guys tells people to call in if they’re hiring, or to call in if they’re looking for work. Nice job advertized yesterday for a Head Nurse at a local hospital, as well as some manufacturing jobs, and a few people called in and Mitch hooked them up right away with some opportunities.

I don’t doubt there are jobs out there for those motivated enough, but it depends upon where you live and what you can do. We’re still pretty insulated here in ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan’ but the axe will fall here, too. No escapin’ it!


12 posted on 07/10/2009 5:05:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: A.Hun

Good reference. Thanks!


13 posted on 07/10/2009 5:06:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You’re welcome!


14 posted on 07/10/2009 7:45:56 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
those figures came from the same report.
but since you asked so nicely

537,000 jobs open in education and health services
520,000 jobs open in professional and business
302,000 jobs open in retail trade.

545,000 Job openings in the North East
922,000 Jobs in the south
517,000 Jobs in the mid-west
567,000 Jobs in the west

52.9 million hired in the last 12 months
57.8 million laid off\fired\quit in the last 12 months

15 posted on 07/10/2009 4:20:00 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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To: stylin19a

Thanks! I don’t read every link I post from top to bottom. ;)


16 posted on 07/10/2009 4:22:03 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: stylin19a

OK. So what’s the problem? That’s pretty bad PR for 0bama when the Media is already in his pants!!

Does that fall under the ‘never let a crisis go to waste’ SOP that they follow? They won’t parade these numbers around until mid-2011?

What’s up?


17 posted on 07/10/2009 4:24:22 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
That's pretty bad PR for 0bama when the Media is already in his pants!!

great. just great ! thanks for puttin that thought in my head.
18 posted on 07/10/2009 8:33:59 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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