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To: IbJensen
This is actually an old debate within the Church - can we be forgiven without uttering the traditional confession of sin, in other words by Faith Alone? Theologians have argued this since the days of the early Church. The Thief on the cross is usually used as the point of argument. Remember the thief on the cross, who said only, “remember me when you enter your Fathers Kingdom. The same thief on the cross is also used by some to prove water baptism is not essential to enter Heaven.

I'm not a Theologian, so I'll just confess my sins and have faith they they were already paid for on that cross. But it seems wrong to me for this Bishop to call those on the other side of the debate idolterers.

60 posted on 07/09/2009 6:51:09 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Stop Freakin, Try Freepin)
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To: NavyCanDo

The baptism and communion, in my understanding,
are outward signs of salvation.

This guy wasn’t going to have much chance to show his “outward signs”...


63 posted on 07/09/2009 6:54:45 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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