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Tools of persuasion
Israpundit ^ | July 8/09 | Ted Belman

Posted on 07/08/2009 10:06:05 AM PDT by tedbel

[..] Apparently, Netanyahu came away from his meeting with Obama, a changed man, a shell of his former self.

Imagine if you will being ordered by the Mob at a Casino to come into the back room due to your "independence". You see on entering some heavy set men around a table on which there is a hammer, a saw, a blowtorch, razor blades, a vise, acid and a number of other persuaders. Well you get the idea of what Netanyahu's meeting was like.

The gloves came off and the Obama administration put there tools on the table.

    1. withdrawal of support at the UN. 2. preventing Israel from using their GPS which is needed to guide Israeli missals, planes and tanks. 3. cancellation of 3 billion in annual grants. 4. barring Israel from using American ammunition stored on Israeli soil, 5. avoiding resupply should Israel run out of munitions. 6. initiating sanctions and other drastic measures at the UN. 7. withdrawal of guarantees 8. full US support of the Saudi Plan 9. Israel to give up Jerusalem and the "illegal settlements" around it.

I can't even imagine all the tools that were put on the table.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freeze; netanyahu; obama; settlements

1 posted on 07/08/2009 10:06:06 AM PDT by tedbel
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To: tedbel; tx_eggman
which is needed to guide Israeli missals

But, how will they have Mass then?
2 posted on 07/08/2009 10:11:21 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: tedbel

I guess that leaves God as the only one who will help them now. That is actually very good for them in the long run.


3 posted on 07/08/2009 10:14:29 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: tedbel
"..Netanyahu left the meeting thoroughly chastened. He rushed over to his old friends in Congress only to find out they backed Obama. He careened over to his friends at AIPAC and other Jewish organizations only to find that they still supported Obama. It was surprising that Netanyahu could make it back to Israel on his own..."

That is the downside of having most American Jews in the Liberal camp. This kind of consequence had to happen.

4 posted on 07/08/2009 10:18:45 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: tedbel

Are any of you experts out there able to explain how GPS could be denied only to the Israeli’s?
Would Hamas still have a signal?


5 posted on 07/08/2009 10:20:17 AM PDT by gigster
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To: tedbel
sounds like FUBO declared war on Israel....did we give the Japanese these kind of ultimatums prior to WW2?
6 posted on 07/08/2009 10:24:00 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: tedbel

So then we will have to protect them from attacks?

Smart move.


7 posted on 07/08/2009 10:29:10 AM PDT by Raycpa
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8 posted on 07/08/2009 10:30:41 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: tedbel
The United States of America has been the major support of Israel's democratic form of government for many years. Now Obama is betraying our intent and demanding ... Israel fold, submit or die. It does not get much worse than that.

What can Israel do? They have a gun to their head ...metaphorically speaking.

SHAMR on Obama and his Secretary of State, and his backers.

9 posted on 07/08/2009 10:32:48 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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I thought I read that Israel was working with India on securing military parts, and avoiding USA as much as possible.


10 posted on 07/08/2009 10:42:02 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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11 posted on 07/08/2009 10:42:54 AM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: geologist

I don’t think it’s a metaphor.


12 posted on 07/08/2009 11:43:09 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Achilles Heel

I’ve read op-ed pieces advising Israel to build close relationships with both India and Russia. India would be the best bet. Russia likes playing “I am so still a super power!” too much, but the Arab block might well be spoken for, leaving Putin with only one card to play.


13 posted on 07/08/2009 12:14:33 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: rawhide
I guess that leaves God as the only one who will help them now. That is actually very good for them in the long run.

I've read that... somewhere...

14 posted on 07/08/2009 2:23:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: gigster
Are any of you experts out there able to explain how GPS could be denied only to the Israeli’s?

Just the ACCURATE siganl - the one to 1 foot accuracy instead of the jittered 30 foot accuracy we commercial users get.

Of course, over time, the jittered signal can be averaged out to a much closer location, but on a fast moving incoming missle this would take too long to accomplish.


I wonder how accurate the Russian GPS is and wether the two nation's signals could be used together?

15 posted on 07/08/2009 2:27:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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This sounds like a load of crap -- that is, the parts regarding Bibi finding AIPAC and various congresscritters to be unsupportive. This part made sense:
Only by crunching little Israel could Obama hoped to have a foreign affairs success.
IOW, Obama now has *no hope* of a foreign affairs success.

He's screwed himself, and furthermore, he probably knows it, and intended to do it, because as he heads into his own political grave, he's dragging the United States in after himself (or at least, giving it his most earnest try).
16 posted on 07/08/2009 2:40:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: john in springfield

I agree. How can America be so foolish? What is in it for them?

We are sticking our finger in the eye of God. Bad mistake.

“I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you.” Genesis 12:3


17 posted on 07/10/2009 8:39:17 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Achilles Heel
Yes. Israel needs all the friends they can get. Obama is not one of them. Israel is so dependent on the friendship of America in the natural.

Of course in the end ... it is God who will save Israel. He usually works through other people; but when needed he works in miraculous ways to defeat their enemies. It does not mean they will not suffer; it means that God will show Himself to them again ... in saving them by miracles.

18 posted on 07/10/2009 8:48:21 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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