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Al Gore invokes spirit of Churchill in battle against climate change
Times (UK) ^ | July 6, 2009

Posted on 07/07/2009 12:11:31 PM PDT by La Lydia

Al Gore invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill today by encouraging political leaders to follow the example of Britain’s wartime leader and unite their nations to fight climate change. The former US vice-president accused politicians around the world of exploiting ignorance about the dangers of global warming. He said lack of awareness among voters allowed governments to avoid taking difficult decisions.

Speaking in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, Mr Gore said: “Winston Churchill aroused this nation in heroic fashion to save civilisation in World War II.” He added: “We have everything we need except political will but political will is a renewable resource.” Mr Gore admitted that it was difficult to persuade the public that the threat from climate change was as urgent as the threat during World War 2....

Sir David King, the Government’s former chief scientist and now director of the Smith School, also berated politicians for failing to follow up their statements on climate change with a clear programme of action.

“I do think it’s relatively easy for a prime minister to make a speech on climate change which sounds committed and very much more difficult for that prime minister to persuade the Treasury to put the finance behind that commitment to make it a reality...

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buncombe; globalwarming; nazis; taxes
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Those of us who think climate change is a fraud are Nazis, I guess. Politicians tellings us if we pay higher taxes, they can change the weather.
1 posted on 07/07/2009 12:11:31 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Al, you’re no Winston!


2 posted on 07/07/2009 12:14:00 PM PDT by texson66 (DemonRats: Remember: They have what it takes to TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE!)
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To: La Lydia

3 posted on 07/07/2009 12:14:20 PM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: La Lydia

You’re waaaaaaaaay overreaching, Al.


4 posted on 07/07/2009 12:15:46 PM PDT by Allegra ( Socks)
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To: SolidWood

Blasphemy, or the patriotic equivalent thereof.


5 posted on 07/07/2009 12:15:51 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Al Gore invokes spirit of Churchill in battle against climate change

Are we sure he wasn't referring to WARD Churchill?

6 posted on 07/07/2009 12:15:54 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: La Lydia

I think he meant Ward Churchill


7 posted on 07/07/2009 12:16:04 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: texson66

Al isn’t even what Winston left in the toilet every morning........only more of it.


8 posted on 07/07/2009 12:16:32 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: La Lydia

Al is right up there with Michael Jackson........


9 posted on 07/07/2009 12:18:17 PM PDT by yoe (Pay attention to what Obama does NOT what he says.)
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Maybe Al should start by showing us his credentials as a climatologist?

Or how about his high school and college transcripts, so we can determine exactly how much brain power he's pumin' there?

10 posted on 07/07/2009 12:18:18 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: La Lydia

We have nothing to fear except global warming kook tales of doomsday.


11 posted on 07/07/2009 12:19:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: La Lydia

I was thinking Ward Churchill.


12 posted on 07/07/2009 12:19:31 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: La Lydia

He’s running the same old rainman scams the settlers had to deal with.


13 posted on 07/07/2009 12:19:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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How about opening his books for full disclosure of how he and his friends will profit from his carbon credits scheme.


14 posted on 07/07/2009 12:20:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: La Lydia
The man has descended to Madness, utter madness. He's desperate now. The data is showing that it's starting to cool and data is a very powerful thing.

Gore refuses to debate only saying that the debate is over. Really? When did it ever start? I don't remember him EVER debating. Does anyone?

No Gore is on the order of the pathetic. He is using Goebbels tactics by telling a lie often enough so as to get it into people's minds that it is the truth. Let's continue the pressure on this guy. He's about to crack.
15 posted on 07/07/2009 12:23:48 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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Mr. Gore is not the only one who can invoke Winston Churchill:

1933?

Vanity | January 24, 2009 | Nathan Bedford

Between the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918 and the dawn hours of September 1,1939, there was time enough to birth a new generation in England and on the continent and to forget every lesson learned in the mud and blood of Flanders and Passchendaele.

. The new generation, and, alas, the generation that had been tutored in the blood and mud of the trenches at the cost of 10 million lives, forgot their lessons, worse, they contrived rationalizations to turn history and common sense on their heads. Both sides of the trenches got their lessons wrong. The Germans concluded that losing war was intolerable. The French and the English concluded that war itself was intolerable. Thus, the Germans made themselves vulnerable to a homicidal megalomaniac who would create a cult of personality, deprive them of their discernment, and ruin them utterly even to the point of cannibalism. He would bring them to war, he would bring them to intolerable conditions, he would bring them to ruin. From beginning to end most of them would remain under his hypnotic thrall.

Alas, the English also got their lessons wrong too, they turned to the Lotus. Abhorring evil, they chose to cope with it by simply denying its existence. Or at least they would deal with it by returning good for evil, appeasement for aggression. Up to the very cusp of Armageddon they thought they could bargain with Faust. They saved their umbrage which should have been directed at Hitler and turned it on the Jeremiah, on John the Baptist, one of their own, who was vainly summoning them to the Shield and Buckler of their sacred honor.

Lest we Americans grow too smug, our humility should be increased by recognizing that we chose to cope with evil with a geographical cure: we would leave it in Europe. Our arrogance was reinforced by an accident of geography, we were separated from Hitler by an ocean and therefore we could say that we were separated from evil by our righteousness. Our self -deception nearly let slip the whole world into a new dark age.

In Volume one, The Gathering Storm, of his historic (the actual publishing of these volumes was a matter itself of history) as well as historical account of The Second World War, Churchill identifies his theme: How the English-speaking peoples

through their unwisdom

carelessness and good nature

allowed the wicked

to rearm

Living today in Germany, I am fascinated by the Teutonic way of seeing the world and am drawn to explore the "Hitler Zeit" or, the "Hitler Times", as they are now euphemistically described, with my neighbors. Yet, it would be boorish to barge into such a sensitive subject with people who are unfailingly polite. So I have contrived a game to draw them out, I ask them the following question: Who is the greatest man of the 20th century? Most often the answer I hear is, Adenauer. I suppose that is understandable, if not inspiring. Sometimes, I hear one from the following genre: Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, Mother Theresa. I take this as evidence of the leftist educational influence in Germany. I have never heard the name, Winston Churchill, spontaneously advanced in response to my question in Germany. At first I was surprised but now I understand that this is part of a tapestry that is best left folded over. The fault for the second world war lies not with the German people but with Adolph Hitler alone or in company with a few of his henchmen. The German people themselves, you see, were duped. In many ways I believe Germans have taken the wrong lessions from the second war as they did from the first. The problem is seen as the Nazis and so they must today be suppressed. Rather than defend liberty of speech, they adopt the Nazi tactic and suppress speech. They see a grave danger in Scientology and virtually outlaw it. But then they saw a greater danger in George Bush than in Vladimir Putin.

And so were the English, French, and we Americans duped in 1933. Or were we all? Did we not seek to be duped? Churchill read Mein Kampf and so did others. Why was he nearly alone in taking a lesson from it? What is it in men that encourages us to rationalize evil? I certainly do not think it is a anything as prosaic as "unwisdom, carelessness or good nature" that ultimately accounts for it. I think there is a more sinister impulse implanted in men.

The signs were all there to see: the cult of personality; the intolerance of contrary opinion; the formation of extra-normal operatives such as political street organizations and youth organizations; playing on victimology; the creation of an us against them mentality; the demonization of opponents; the false sense of urgency; the immunity from the rule of law for the elites; the fawning of the media; the distortion of science; the tinkering with life in the laboratory; the mass psychosis.

George Bush and Winston Churchill share a one admirable characteristic in common, both men repudiate pettiness. So Bush carried this normally noble character trait to a fault in turning the other cheek to his attackers to the destruction of his own administration. Churchill would not denigrate even Chamberlain personally. Yet there is no question that Churchill could identify evil. He saw it from the very beginning in Hitler. He might have misjudged Mussolini a bit in the early going, but Churchill nailed Hitler from the get go, from even before the day Hitler came to power in 1933. He was never deceived, either, about the murderous tyrants of the Kremlin and their evil, pernicious doctrine. I tell my German friends that I think Winston Churchill was the greatest man of the 20th century, "because he single-handedly saved the world- once from fascism and once, with others, from communism."

What is the point of all this? Well, it is high time that I got to the point. More than one Freeper has asked me to comment on the early doings of the Obama administration. Believe it or not, this is a vanity about that. Am I comparing Obama to Hitler? Yes I am. I would rather make the point by identifying parallels with communism, the Soviets, their gulags, their repression, mao tse- tung's cult of personality, the treatment in the press, their domination of academia. But I am writing this to persuade people so I pick Hitler rather than Mao, Hitler rather than Che Guevera, Hitler rather than Hugo Chavez, because in today's world it is politically correct to attack Nazis and unproductive to attack extreme leftism.

How dare one compare unfavorably our first black president, freely elected by the people, with one of history's most evil men, Adolf Hitler? I'll leave that for you to ponder. If this vanity slips out somehow from FreeRepublic, probably because it is identified as an execrable example of hate on the right, the debate will be confined to how the right must be censored, they will say that it is far more dangerous than, for example, Scientology (but perhaps with less influence.) But others with a more open mind might just open those minds further to the parallels between Obama and Hitler. They might consider what it was about the English state of mind after the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month which very nearly led them into gotterdammerung. They might consider how Churchill was shunned and dismissed as a war monger. They might see some parallels in our society today in the way in which we are treating our Jeremiahs, our John the Baptists. I am bound to say in sadness that I see no Winston Churchill in our midst but I do see that it is 1933 for Obama's America.

On October 25 of last year, before the election, I published this on Free Republic:

How conservatives can contrive to come out of the wilderness or whether they can come out at all cannot now be foreseen. Much depends on whether Obama merely perverts our institutions and traditional liberties or succeeds in subverting the Constitution à la Hugo Chavez. Obama has many tools short of violence and few institutional obstacles stand in his way. He has the overwhelming justification of the financial crisis which might well become a depression. He will pack the court. He will use the treaty making power to detour around our constitutional liberties. The propaganda machine will be overwhelming. The bright side, if it can be counted as such, is that all will not be well on the left. Hillary will exercise her ambitions, inevitably at the expense of Obama. Every special-interest group will be calling in their IOUs. In the long run, an extreme leftist coalition cannot hold together unless it moves beyond our constitutional government toward some sort of repressive regime. I look for Stalin versus Trotsky wars on the left with the potential for these internicine battles to spin out of control. Who knows where that will lead? Much depends on whether the left stays within the model of a representative democracy or seeks to extend its power with subversion of our historical liberties.

It is difficult to lift one's gaze above the machinations generated by Obama's new administration to see the path leading out of the wilderness for conservatives and for the country. I think it revolves around the word, liberty. There is every reason to fear that our economic times will closely resemble 1933. Will the political times parallel 1933 as well? The portents are ominous. The absence of a conservative opposition to raise the standard even against the corruption of Obama's appointees is as dispiriting as it is revealing. We will be lucky, however, if the worst legacy of Obamaism is mere corruption. Yet, we have betrayed ourselves to be too callow to stand up even against obvious corruption. Somehow, men must raise themselves up and defend their children and their children's birthright. They must recognize evil. They must fight for liberty if only for their childrens' sake. If we succumb to the cult of personality every child in the world is lost for we are the hope of the world.

Here is how Churchill ends his the first volume at England's darkest hour when England must stand alone against the overwhelming power of evil yet, indomitably, he ends on a note of hope:

During these last crowded days of the political crisis my pulse had not quickened at any moment. I took it all as it came. But I cannot conceal from the reader of this truthful account that as I went to bed at about 3 a.m. I was conscious of a profound sense of relief. At last I had the authority to give directions over the whole scene. I felt as if I were walking with destiny, and that all my past life had been but a preparation for this hour and for this trial. 10 years in the political wilderness had freed me from ordinary party antagonisms. My warnings over the last six years had been so numerous, so detailed, and were now so terribly vindicated, that no one could gainsay me. I could not be reproached either for making the war or would want a preparation for it. I thought I'd do a good deal about it all, and I was sure I should not fail. Therefore, although impatient for the morning, I slept soundly and had no need for cheering dreams. Facts are better than dreams.


16 posted on 07/07/2009 12:30:00 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Having invested tens of millions to PROFIT off of the global warming scam of Cap and Trade, little wondering that Gore is desperately resorting to using Churchill and Nazis as symbolic mechanisms....


17 posted on 07/07/2009 12:33:48 PM PDT by cranked
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To: La Lydia
Just for him saying that....I wish Winston would show up......He would kick Algore's @$$!!

That would be awesome!!

18 posted on 07/07/2009 12:36:41 PM PDT by freedombird (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness. -A. DeTocqueville)
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Churchill recognized the greatest threat to civilization is human evil, not fantasy theories about the apocalypse. That's the difference Al...that moral clarity that continues to allude you and the rest of the Left.
19 posted on 07/07/2009 12:39:56 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: La Lydia

Gee, a guy selling something, which would make him a profit. You have to believe him he has no vested interest. LOL


20 posted on 07/07/2009 12:41:19 PM PDT by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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