Oh geez... I guess when I say true socialism you mean final stage communism but you don’t need a totalarian government if people truely want to be abide by the rules but so you can deal with this conversation easier we can use your term.
I really don’t even know where to start... first I guess we have to define terms for you.
Reality is the world we live in.
Idealism is something that is strived for but rarely achieved espically on a large scale.
Are you comfortable with those terms now?
In reality people are too easily drawn into sin to allow final stage communism to actually work.
However, as individuals and societies we naturally want to strive for a better system then we have because it’s imperfect.
Enter the Pope. The Pope look everyone we should want to strive to treat all as equals. To love thy neighbor. To not be greedy. The Pope should say to CEO’s. Look hey guys we don’t care if you make alot of money but why not share that wealth with your workers?
Why do you have a problem with the Pope saying that? Do you have some guilt because you’re a greedy business owner? Otherwise I don’t understand what your problem is with that.
I think individuals should want to “share the wealth”. It doesn’t requirement Governments to forcibly redistribute wealth. If instead of building 50 million dollar houses you settle for a 5 million dollar house and use the rest of the money for charity would that be so bad? If a few people got that money that really didn’t need it that would be unfortunate but is it any less unfortunate that a society that has more than a few Ken Lay’s running corporations?
Economic equality is members of society not abusing their power and position for ridiculous fortunes that were far out of the realm of reasonable.
Greed is a horrible horrible thing in this world.. but I’m not saying Governments should force people not to be greedy. What I’m saying is that the Pope has every right to encourage the world to work together more.
I don't have a problem with that, but that is not what I thought you were saying. When you used the word, "socialism" it evokes certain political conotations.
Enter the Pope. The Pope look everyone we should want to strive to treat all as equals. To love thy neighbor. To not be greedy. The Pope should say to CEO’s. Look hey guys we don’t care if you make alot of money but why not share that wealth with your workers?
Why do you have a problem with the Pope saying that?
No, I don't have any problem with the Pope saying that.
I think individuals should want to “share the wealth”. It doesn’t requirement Governments to forcibly redistribute wealth.
I agree with you about this.
If instead of building 50 million dollar houses you settle for a 5 million dollar house and use the rest of the money for charity would that be so bad?
No, that wouldn't be bad at all. You might want to consider, though, the economic benefits generated even by an evil rich guy's building of a 50 million dollar house, would necessarily employ a lot of people, which is also a good thing.
Economic equality is members of society not abusing their power and position for ridiculous fortunes that were far out of the realm of reasonable.
It depends on who is deciding what is "reasonable".
Greed is a horrible horrible thing in this world.. but I’m not saying Governments should force people not to be greedy. What I’m saying is that the Pope has every right to encourage the world to work together more.
I can agree with you on that. It's just when the Pope starts talking about redistribution of wealth (by force of government - if that's the what the Pope really means; i.e., if it's not just the doublespeak of a bunch of crazy Italians) that I stray off the plantation.
Cordially,