Posted on 07/07/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by TheRiverNile
You wrote:
“Please define what is meant by “all things Catholic”.”
No. Why should I? I can just watch you do it instead.
Two words which describe this attitude come to mind: Hubris and Delusional.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2290120/posts
This is happening, right now, regarding Venezuela.
Is that hypocrisy on your part?
No, more likely I’ll be riding it than you
Sure they do.
Is this REALLY the direction you choose to take? Make it personal? Carp about irrelevant issues?
DG
As a Roman Catholic I have always understood the Pope to be infallible in matters of faith and morals as contained in Divine Revelation. All other matters are his desires and ways to achieve them. God handed Moses the Ten Commandments on Mt Sinai as guidelines for human activities. There are more ways than one to skin a cat, and this is his feeling on how we an achieve these recommendations. My personal feelin is that we were given our Savior in the person of Jesus Christ to more or less fine tune the Ten Commandments. There is no question that as moral human beings we would like an end to wars, human suffering and totalitarian governments. As humans, we all live in nation states with nationalistic feelings which I am very comfortable. I believe we live in the Greatest Nation that God has allowed on this planet. The question is how can we bestow the freedoms that we have enjoyed in the UNited States to others. A one world government would not be the answer as there are too many differences between the nation states. The Holy Father threw out the idea of a global government as a way to achieve which I feel is impossible. Again the Holy Father is very concerned about mankind with all of its frailaties but his feelings on how to achieve this are one mans idea and not infallible. He is an idealist has expressed his opinion which we are free to accept or not accept. His famous paragraph reflects the views of an idealist. JM
I am not afraid on a ONE WORLD government.. in fact I read the book that told us it was going to happen eventually :)
Hmm, guess it depends on who you ask?
S.Y.
Says Yahweh?
If you say so.
I have no idea about the present one. He was schooled under my former pastor so he may have the same feelings about it.
The data you cite do not support the contention that God is leaving the Catholic Church high and dry.
However, those data do support the contention that vocations are up.
You know, you could have said something positive about my former pastor but you chose to ignore his stand. Too bad.
52% of the Catholics got Obama in.
However, those data do support the contention that vocations are up.
SUUURRRRREEEE!
You wrote:
“Any personal experience of yours in your little corner of the world is meaningless and it is surprising that you would use it as a definitive argument.”
Incorrect. My experience in itself, and my education on this subject, is so broad, expansive and deep that it is worhwhile to use it as a definitive argument. What I have said also has been echoed and backed up by the experiences of dozens of other Catholic posters here.
“Two words which describe this attitude come to mind: Hubris and Delusional.”
And yet you can’t refute what was said. You can ignore it. You would also have to ignore what dozens of other Catholic posters have sai here over the years. Then again ignoring the truth is old hat for you.
You wrote:
“Whistling in the dark! Once again you mistake a localized occurrence and relate it to the universe.”
Nope. You are the one doing that. You link to AMERICAN STATISTICS. I was writing about the whole world!
If you too the time to actually read what you linked to you would have noticed this:
Graduate Seminarians (that’s future priests in case you didn’t know):
1990 = 51,603
1995 = 54,154
2000 = 55,968
2005 = 58,538
So, the number of seminarians world wide went up 7,000 in just 15 years. It’s still going up by the way. Again, these were the statistics YOU LINKED TO but apparently weren’t interested in actually reading. How embarrassing for you!
“Graduate-level seminarians 8,325 5,279 4,063 3,172 3,474 3,308 3,286”
Yeah, in America. I never said anything about this just being about America. And you INCREDIBLY wrote: “ Once again you mistake a localized occurrence and relate it to the universe.”
So, according to you, the whole world is “localized”? Again, how embarrassing for you.
You wrote:
“Of course you won’t. It is then much easier to hurl your false accusations.”
Coming from you - the guy who falsely claimed I was looking local when I was talking about the whole world and who didn’t read his own link - that’s rich.
You wrote:
“You know, you could have said something positive about my former pastor but you chose to ignore his stand. Too bad.”
Mary, are you crying? Seriously, are your feelings hurt because I didn’t bother to comment on the fact that your former pastor actually was right on something? It’s amazing to me that you attack my Church all the time with apparently no compunction whatsoever and now you’re upset I didn’t say something positive about your pastor.
Your pastor wasn’t the issue. He’s gone anyway, right? Will your new pastor teach something different? what does your denomination teach? Will that change next year or because of new pastors?
I honestly am not trying to offend you. It is just incredible to me that you want a pat on the back for your old pastor and yet - in the past - have not hesitated to attack my fellow Catholics for all sorts of things real or imagined. We were talking earlier about celibacy. Where did you say something positive about the Catholic priests who take those vows and stick to them all their lives?
I am sorry that I did not give your pastor more of a pat on the back. He’s probably a good man.
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