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Papal Message Seeks "Global Authority" for Economy
Reuters ^ | July 7, 2009 | Phillip Pullella

Posted on 07/07/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by TheRiverNile

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies to pull the world out of the current crisis and avoid a repeat.

The pope made his call for a re-think of the way the world economy is run in a new encyclical which touched on a number of social issues but whose main connecting thread was how the current crisis has affected both rich and poor nations.

Parts of the encyclical, titled "Charity in Truth," seemed bound to upset free marketeers because of its underlying rejection of unbridled capitalism and unregulated market forces, which he said had led to "thoroughly destructive" abuse of the system.

The pope said every economic decision had a moral consequence and called for "forms of redistribution" of wealth overseen by governments to help those most affected by crises.

Benedict said "there is an urgent need of a true world political authority" whose task would be "to manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result."

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To: Columbo

It sounds like a bunch of mumbo jumbo to me. On the other hand, I understood the part about a global economy with politicians in charge and redistribution of wealth perfectly.

I may not be a genuis but shouldn’t it be written so that most people can figure out what in the heck he’s talking about?


281 posted on 07/07/2009 6:36:00 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: TheRiverNile

“I’m shocked at this. Anybody care to explain?”

He’s German. He can’t help it.


282 posted on 07/07/2009 6:37:08 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: beckett
Everything else I wrote still applies, including my ultimate point, i.e., the Pope favors an armed world government.

Then you have chosen to pull a quote out of context and run with it. In case you missed the quote that I highlighted earlier, here it is:

In order not to produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature, the governance of globalization must be marked by subsidiarity, articulated into several layers and involving different levels that can work together. Globalization certainly requires authority, insofar as it poses the problem of a global common good that needs to be pursued. This authority, however, must be organized in a subsidiary and stratified way[138], if it is not to infringe upon freedom and if it is to yield effective results in practice.
Benedict XVI understands human nature and its temptations. He doesn't think or write in short soundbites. One can't just grab one sentence or paragraph from a long document and think that that short excerpt summarizes what he is saying in the document. Look at what happened when the lamestream media took one quote out of context from a lecture he gave in Germany at Regensberg University. They deliberately highlighted that quote because they knew that out of context it would be very controversial. However, it was merely a side point leading up to the main thesis of his lecture and wasn't something he said, either.

He has clarified what he means about a global authority. It is not what all of the chicken littles on FR are claiming he means. He includes multiple references to the Catholic concept of subsidiarity. One cannot comment effectively if they do not know what he is talking about.

So, your idea that he advocates an armed one world government is completely unfounded. He frequently denounces violence as a solution to social problems.

283 posted on 07/07/2009 6:53:05 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Patriotic1

It’s not rude to point out that we are rich, but personally, I am sick to death of those words being used as an admonition. Name one country on the face of the earth that gives more than we do.


284 posted on 07/07/2009 7:08:33 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: ELS
The Pope has proposed a global authority backed up the "authority to ensure compliance," which can only mean authority from the barrel of a gun, just as all law is ultimately enforced, if it comes to it, by physical coercion.

You're living in a dream world if you think subsidiarity negates hierarchy. That's kind of like saying a mail room supervisor can tell the CEO to take a hike if he doesn't like what the CEO wants him to do. Or perhaps, better yet, an altar boy can tell the Pope he's banishing the Sacraments from Roman Catholicism whether the Pope likes it or not.

POWER assigns to the OFFICE, and the higher the office's place in the hierarchy, the more power it accrues. Catholic clergy understand hierarchy very well. They just about invented it in its modern form. The Pope wants to superimpose a hierarchy above all other hierarchies, and all his and your silly disclaimers about subsidiarity are mere window dressing, catnip for fools who don't understand the uses and functions of power.

285 posted on 07/07/2009 7:25:50 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: angkor

Many Catholics are democrats and vote that way. It was apparent in this past year’s election of Obambi. They and other Christians who are not Catholic voted their party instead of their moral values.


286 posted on 07/07/2009 7:27:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Deo volente

I thought the Pope was infallible.


287 posted on 07/07/2009 7:28:27 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Me, too.


288 posted on 07/07/2009 7:29:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Jmouse007

Yup, and there are none so blind as those who will not see when it’s right in front of them.


289 posted on 07/07/2009 7:31:04 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: beckett
And you refuse to see that the Pope understands the danger of a "universal power of a tyrannical nature." He is not advocating for an armed central government.

Those who have eyes to see ...

290 posted on 07/07/2009 7:41:43 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Patriotic1; wmfights; HarleyD; Dutchboy88; blue-duncan; Marysecretary; PAR35; Lee N. Field; ...
I read it all. It's just more double-speak. Only this time, Rome is not as obtuse as it usually is. In fact, Ratzinger is miserably clear...

Benedict said "there is an urgent need of a true world political authority" whose task would be "to manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result."

Such an authority would have to be "regulated by law" and "would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights."

"Universally recognized?" lol. Obama is "universally recognized." So is Michael Jackson. It hasn't given either of them much credence.

"Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums," he said.

"Authority?" What kind of world-wide authority? A world court? A global stock market? Maybe he wants to change the petro-dollar to Euros. Think that's a good idea?

This country is being sold down the river Nile at lightening speed.

The UN section is tough to understand outside of the context of the rest of the encyclical.

Not so tough. About as tough as understanding "encroaching fascism." Bureaucracies do not diminish. Like all parasites, they just multiply until they kill the host.

291 posted on 07/07/2009 7:48:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: TheRiverNile
"The pope said every economic decision had a moral consequence"

And I would say that every spiritual decision has a moral consequence too.

If the Pope had take the advice of the Lady of Fatima and consecrated Russia with prayer in 1917 when Russia was in flux before the 1923 Communist take over think of how many millions of lives would of been saved at the hands of Communism.

292 posted on 07/07/2009 7:49:01 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: PAR35

it depends, the Protestant gang or the Catholic gang?


293 posted on 07/07/2009 7:49:20 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

He is a fascist. He always was a fascist.


294 posted on 07/07/2009 7:50:20 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All fascists/all the time.

A perfect epithet for anti-Catholic bigots of all times.

295 posted on 07/07/2009 7:50:48 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Do you approve of your leader’s assessment and hopes for our economy?


296 posted on 07/07/2009 7:51:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wmfights

Yep, it IS frightening. Too many Catholics are democrats and that’s how they vote.


297 posted on 07/07/2009 7:52:15 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: RFEngineer

It comes with the territory, LOL.


298 posted on 07/07/2009 7:53:19 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I have made quite clear my refusal to answer your questions, being fraught with false-dichotomies and lies as they are.


299 posted on 07/07/2009 7:54:12 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: conservativegranny

America is THE most generous country in the world and Americans are the most generous people in the world. Who gives whenever there’s an earthquake, tornado, hurricane, floods, tsunami’s across the world. WE are there, usually first in line, to help.


300 posted on 07/07/2009 7:55:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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