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Job Retraining May Fall Short of High Hopes
New York Times ^ | July 5, 2009 | Michael Luo

Posted on 07/05/2009 7:52:46 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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Tens of thousands of laid-off workers [...] have turned to retraining as a lifeline. Yet for all the popularity of these government-financed programs, there are questions about whether they actually work, even as President Obama’s stimulus plan directs $1.4 billion more to retraining and other services for people who have lost their jobs.

In Michigan, where the unemployment rate in May was 14.1 percent, the nation’s highest, 78,000 people are enrolled in the state’s No Worker Left Behind program and 7,800 are on the waiting list. At the Michigan Works job center here, where Mr. Hutchins applied for retraining money, thewait to attend an orientation session is up to two months.

Nonetheless, a little-noticed study the Labor Department released several months ago found that the benefits of the biggest federal job training program were “small or nonexistent” for laid-off workers. It showed little difference in earnings and the chances of being rehired between laid-off people who had been retrained and those who had not.

In interviews, the authors of the study and other economists cited several reasons that retraining might not be effective. Many workers who have lost their jobs are older and had spent their lives working in one industry. In need of a job right away, many pick relatively short training programs, which often have marginal benefits. Job retraining is also ineffective without job creation, a point made by several economists who have long cautioned against placing too much stock in it. Finally, workers trying to pick a new field cannot predict the future of the labor market, especially in a time of economic upheaval.

“I can’t tell you with any degree of certainty, and I’ve been doing it for 20 years, what the hot jobs are going to be,” said one of the author [...]

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 0bamaisfailing; economy; jobless; jobs; obamanomics; retraining; unemployment
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Maybe unemployed Michiganders who want to work will need to leave the state.
1 posted on 07/05/2009 7:52:46 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The Government does little right. Who would hire a worker who went through Government “re-training?” They’d surely do their best to run your company into the ground.


2 posted on 07/05/2009 7:54:33 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: reaganaut1

to keep the unemployment as low as possible, the govt is hiring anybody off the street at staggering rates, of course, paying them with our tax money.


3 posted on 07/05/2009 7:58:21 PM PDT by HighWheeler (The higher the concentration of libs, the bigger the tragedy that follows.)
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To: reaganaut1

>> Yet for all the popularity of these government-financed programs, there are questions about whether they actually work, even as President Obama’s stimulus plan directs $1.4 billion more to retraining

Of course these programs work! Here’s a detailed roadmap of how the money waters the “green shoots of recovery”:

a) If you’s a big ‘Rat gangsta contributor, you work da machine and get your name on da list as a brotha what runs a retrainin’ thing... dig?

b) Da bling flows you way

c) You goes to fancy restaurants and spends da money... or gets yourse’f a new grille... or some wheels...

d) All dem bizness ownas what runs dem restaurants and dem car delas and such hires new workas.

There. See? Simple as ABC...

that is, “All ‘Bout Corruption”


4 posted on 07/05/2009 7:59:25 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: reaganaut1

The only ones benefitting from this retraining are the community colleges.


5 posted on 07/05/2009 7:59:51 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) We know how to deal with Iran.)
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To: reaganaut1

One word CETA.


6 posted on 07/05/2009 8:00:32 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: reaganaut1

The guy is clueless.

He’s going to be like someone trapped in quicksand and he sill drag us down with him.


7 posted on 07/05/2009 8:00:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: Nervous Tick

Well written. Great post.


8 posted on 07/05/2009 8:09:14 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: reaganaut1
most of them would barely qualify as a horse holder, and there isn't a big call for horse holders now days...
9 posted on 07/05/2009 8:10:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: HighWheeler
of course, paying them with our tax money.

And our children's tax money and our grand children's tax money and our great gran...................................

10 posted on 07/05/2009 8:18:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: reaganaut1

I knew a lady who enrolled in a job retraining program back during the Clinton years. It was very underwhelming, to hear her tell it. Very basic job training programs geared to entry-level positions. Certainly nothing satisfactory to someone coming from a skilled trades position or most white collar office jobs.

In all fairness, I don’t know if that’s the norm for these kinds of programs, or if the woman I knew had an atypical experience. Just sayin’ the one I do know about seemed to be basically worthless.


11 posted on 07/05/2009 8:19:13 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: reaganaut1

I didn’t realize working as a Walmart greeter required any re-training.


12 posted on 07/05/2009 8:19:27 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: reaganaut1

Retraining for what?

Obama and the democrats are intentionally, systematically annihilating the US economy, in order to grow the government.


13 posted on 07/05/2009 8:19:40 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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Obama wants to retrain them for "green jobs". Maybe they can train as windmill installers, or solar panel technicians, or reflective roofing replacement workers. How many windmill installers does America need? Maybe 100. And they already have the jobs.

I have just one thing to say about Obama's "green jobs": You want fries with that?

14 posted on 07/05/2009 8:24:33 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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Maybe unemployed Michiganders who want to work will need to leave the state

Pretty tough to do when you're completely out of money. When you leave you need a stake--a sum to pay for rent on a room or apartment, pay for food, transportation, utilities, and a phone while you look for work. If you're penniless because you've been out of work for months, where could you get that stake? Or afford even to travel to another state, like Texas? BTW, once you've lost your job and are in financial trouble you usually can't pass a credit check to rent a room or apartment.

15 posted on 07/05/2009 8:25:23 PM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama! (If you're old enough, you'll understand the reference))
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To: wafflehouse; Leisler; PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; ...
*Ping!*
16 posted on 07/05/2009 8:26:16 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: FormerACLUmember
From the article: retraining is also ineffective without job creation, a point made by several economists who have long cautioned against placing too much stock in it I really feel sorry for these people.
17 posted on 07/05/2009 8:27:11 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Sender

The whole “green jobs” thing is such a crock. There are very few and I’ll be the Government needs to shell out mega $$ just to sustain one “green” job. But, hey, it sounds great as a sound byte to the Sheeple.


18 posted on 07/05/2009 8:29:14 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I do appreciate you pinging me to these posts but this is so wrong I refuse to answer. “My levee My dream” is an idiot. The people in-training will never surpass the 6.5 million fired. Obama is shrinking the economy by design. He is stopping progress. I’ll say it.. To Hell with that SOB.


19 posted on 07/05/2009 8:36:11 PM PDT by eyedigress
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“there are questions about whether they actually work”

Not in my mind. Really just make work/bailouts for the trainers. For the Students just more subsidized Unemployment. Gov’t contractors actually training people to fill nonexistent job openings.

20 posted on 07/05/2009 8:38:00 PM PDT by TCats
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