[petconservative]

From the article:

"A complete overhaul of the US power sector would only delay seven-hundredths of one degree of Celsius (.07 C)of warming in the next 100 years."

that only tells me it's too late to do anything about climate change. We might as well keep doing what we are doing until all the species die and their is nothing left for our posterity.

[Repeal The 17th]

“...We might as well keep doing what we are doing
until all the species die
and their is nothing left for our posterity...”
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If lawmakers seriously thought
they could control the temperature of the earth, and
they could control the atmospheric concentration of CO2...
It seems there would first be a huge debate centered around
what is the “ideal” temperature of the earth... and
what is the “ideal” concentration of atmospheric CO2?

[Old Professer]

No net warming for June 2009 worldwide.

[AFPhys]

Well, I completely disagree that it is too late to do anything about "climate change". Nothing that we do is going to have any impact! The MOST DANGEROUS THING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE is the politicians worrying about it! Alarmists ALWAYS have some issue or other- this is nothing new!" The following is what I think about "climate change"

There has been NO temperature increase for the last 8 years. (Bush's fault!) In fact, it has slightly cooled, as you can see from the satellite data! "It's the Sun, Stupid!"

I think it is too soon to claim the data PROVE we are in a certain downtrend yet, but it is clearly possible since the latest solar cycle was 152 months long, 27 months longer than the average cycle from 1940-96. According to Lassen's analysis, this would be associated with a 0.7C/ 1.25F DROP of Earth's temperature.

Here are some historical charts from his article, which is also consistent with the UK's Met Office data http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/comparison.html, but show the solar activity:

(http://www.tmgnow.com/IMAGES/lassen4.gif)

(http://www.tmgnow.com/IMAGES/lassen7.gif)

Here is a link to a display of the MOST ACCURATE records we have of Earth's temperatures: the Satellite data since 1978. Notice there that temperatures may well have leveled off around 2001-2003 after rising 0.2C the previous two decades, and it is easily supportable that we are in a cooling trend since then, which would be consistent with Lassen.

The SUN is almost completely ignored by the Alarmists because the way Sol's "minor" increase in solar activity (which cycle length is a proxy for) can be "amplified" in its initial, trivial effects. Svensmark's proposal of cosmic ray influences are likely to solve at least part of that, though Cristy's analysis of feedback involving equatorial cloud formations have a similar amplification effect. The alarmists have mysterious multipliers for CO2's influence built in to their models, which appear to several factors too high (by some analysis as much as 10x too high), but they refuse to allow a similar mysterious multiplier for solar influence despite Lassen's clear demonstration in this paper.

So, what do we do about the effects of climate changing? TELL THE POLITICIANS to LAY OFF! IT'S THE SUN, STUPID! It isn't too late to stop the effect of the climate changing.

[Robert A Cook PE]

?

Tell me again what harm we are doing our children, our grandchildren, and their children by fertilizing the earth with CO2. Every plant on earth now is growing 12% to 27% faster, stronger, larger, and with greater productivity making more food, fuel, fodder, and feed than ever before. All plankton, coral, phytoplankton, and sea life is doing better with more CO2 as well.

By the way, assuming global warming exists - and temperatures are now no higher than they were in 1979, what is the harm in any global warming at all?