Posted on 07/05/2009 1:29:50 AM PDT by DaveTesla
WASHINGTON — With concerns rising about a possible North Korean long-range missile test this weekend, two
independent scientists say the regime may be using an old Soviet ballistic missile to boost a rocket capable
of reaching the West Coast of the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Well it would make since that Soviet parts would be found in North Korean missiles since they’re all reverse engineered Scuds or based off of them.
Gee, how is the purple lipped crack smoker going to blame Bush for this I wonder?
Evil people always support each other; that is their main strength.
Alexander Solzhenitsin
If a Korean missile lands in east L.A., do you think they’ll notice?
Well, let’s hope that never happens.....can you imagine how many “LA Missile Tragedy” relatives of ‘dead’ patriots will crawl out of the wood work ala 911 survivors’ payments fame?
The word “find” in the headline seems a bit strong. “Think” would be more accurate.
Say isn’t Zero in Russia right now for a hoped lovefest. Pretty good timing on that finding and news release to jack up US-Russia tensions a little more.
Lev Andropov: [annoyed] Components. American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!
I don’t think there’s anyway you could possibly get a Scud, no matter how you modified it, to fly from Korea to Hawaii unless you placed it on top or a booster stage.
A Scud does not seem to me, anyway, as a good starting point for an ICBM.
You mean the dismantling of our missile defense and the
stabbing of Poland in the back?
Why fight evil when we can just lick their boots?
After reading the article, I would say “conjure up” is a lot more accurate than “find”.
Postol is famous for making assertions without the tiniest fig leaf of evidence.
North Korea deploys new missiles
http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw040802_1_n.shtml
By Joseph S Bermudez JDW Special Correspondent Colorado
Emerging reports indicate that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea - DPRK) is developing— and is in the process of deploying—at least two new ballistic missile systems.
The first is a land-based road-mobile medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM)/intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) with an estimated range of 2,500-4,000km. The second is a companion submarine or ship-mounted ballistic missile system with a range of at least 2,500km. Both systems appear to be based on the decommissioned Soviet R-27 (NATO: SS-N-6) submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM).
The R-27 is a single-stage, liquid-propellant SLBM that became operational in the Soviet Navy during 1968. It weighs 14,200kg and is 9.65m in length, with a diameter of 1.5m and a range of 2,500km. The original version carried a single nuclear re-entry vehicle (RV), while the later R-27U carried three RVs, each with a 200kT payload.
It is believed that the R-27 technology originated with personnel from the VP Makeyev Design Bureau in Miass, Chelyabinsk. A group of 20 missile specialists from the bureau was detained in December 1992 as they were attempting to depart for the DPRK.
What made this incident so significant was that this design bureau specialised in the design of Soviet SLBMs and had developed the R-27. Publicly, the specialists only stated that they had been recruited to assist the DPRK in developing a space launch vehicle, codenamed Zyb. It is unclear whether the initial technology acquisitions were government sanctioned. However, the detained missile specialists had reportedly received approval for their travel to the DPRK from the Ministry of General Machine Building and the Ministry of Security of the Russian Federation. Reports indicate that other groups of missile specialists successfully travelled to the DPRK.
The R-27 was an excellent choice upon which the DPRK could build a new system. The liquid-fuelled missile features 40-year-old technology and is well within the level of skill and industrialisation of the DPRK. More significantly, the R-27 engine was designed by the Isayev Design Bureau, which had also developed the 9D21 engine. This was being produced by the DPRK for its Hwasong 5/6 (Scud B/C) and, in a modified form, for the No-dong. The R-27 also represents a proven system that the DPRK would be able to develop and deploy without having to conduct a significant test and evaluation programme.
The former Soviet Union gave NoKo all kinds of hardware over the years. North Korea could very well have the finest collection of museum-grade Soviet rolling stock in the world. There is no telling what NoKo got their hands on over the years, but you can bet it was substantial. I also have no doubt that they have been able to reverse-engineer what soviet rocket technology they could get their hands on in order to produce their current missile technology.
The reason that Syria is such a problem in the Middle East is because Hafez Assad was a Soviet puppet, and they gave him all of the hardware he could use, especially against the Israelis.
It’s a matter of quantity over quality, the same military strategery that the Soviets pursued against the West for decades. Why worry about technological superiority when you can simply build enough tanks to roll over the enemy no matter how many are killed.
http://www.missilethreat.com/missilesoftheworld/id.148/missile_detail.asp
SS-N-6
Country: Russian Federation
Alternate Name: Serb, R-27
Class: SLBM
Basing: Submarine launched
Length: 9.00 m
Diameter: 1.50 m
Launch Weight: 14200 kg
Payload: Single warhead (Mod 1 and 2); 3 MRV (Mod 3)
Warhead: Nuclear 1 MT (Mod 1 and 2); 3 at 200 kT (Mod 3).
Propulsion: 2-stage liquid
Range: Mod 1 - 2500 km, Mod 2/3 - 3000 km
Status: Obsolete
In Service: 1968-1996
Details
Russian Designation: R-27
The SS-N-6 was an intermediate-range, submarine-launched, liquid propellant ballistic missile. It represented a considerable leap forward in the Soviet Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM), incorporating a second-stage engine, vastly superior range and accuracy, and Multiple Re-entry Vehicles (MRV). It used storable liquid propellants with a pre-launch time of roughly 10 minutes and a missile that could be launched from a submarine with an interval of 8 seconds between launches. It used an inertial guidance system.
There were three major versions of the SS-N-6, with a fourth version designed for attacking ship surveillance radars was cancelled during the design phase. Like all SLBMs, the purpose of the SS-N-6 was to place hidden nuclear missiles within close range of their targets while maintaining secrecy. The SS-N-6 was designed to destroy strategic land targets, but with its relatively limited (but still greatly improved) accuracy it could only really engage cities and other soft targets. The longer range enabled the submarine to strike US targets from well outside the range of anti-submarine defenses, even as far as some Russian territorial waters. It provided an effective pre-emptive and reprisal nuclear force.
The SS-N-6 had a launch weight of 14,200 and carried a payload of 650 kg. It was 9.0 m long and 1.5 m wide. The Mod 1 and 2 were equipped with single nuclear warheads with 1 MT yields. The Mod 3 could deploy three 200 kT MRV warheads against a target area. The Mod 1 had a range of 2,500 km and an accuracy limitation of 1,900 m CEP. The Mod 2 and 3 used a superior design that increases the range to 3,000 km (1,864 miles) and the accuracy to 1,300 m CEP. The SS-N-6 used a two-stage liquid propellant engine according to some accounts, a single stage by others.
The SS-N-6 began development in 1962 with flight tests beginning in 1966. The SS-N-6 Mod 1 entered service in the Soviet Union in 1968, with the Mod 2 and 3 entering in 1974. A total of 600 missiles were built and at the peak SS-N-6 missiles were carried on 34 boats. The SS-N-6 missiles were deployed on ‘Yankee 1’ submarines. This had been reduced to 12 boats and 192 missiles by 1991, and two boats and 32 missiles by December 1994. The last SS-N-6 compatible submarine was decommissioned in 1996.(1)
The disinformation from the media continues.
So 24,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) is short range to you?=
So 2,400 kilometers (1,500 miles) is short range to you?
I’m not sure what you are responding to. The Scud-D had a maximum range of 700 km.
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