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America's New Energy Dependency: China's Metals
US News ^
| July 1, 2009
| By Kent Garber
Posted on 07/04/2009 7:27:26 AM PDT by Flavius
In 2007, a standoff unfolded between China and several American companies, including W.R. Grace, a major supplier of oil refining products. China was threatening to withhold supplies that keep refiners in business.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commodity
Good thing we have nukes, if we had to build up armor we'd be screwed.
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:27:27 AM PDT
by
Flavius
To: Flavius
Oh well. At some point, sombody should recognize a recurring pattern of controlling behavior with China and project that pattern forward to her military buildup.
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:46:31 AM PDT
by
fso301
To: Flavius
This will happen in many other industries too. Americans have lost the sense that industry and production matter.
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:46:43 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: Flavius
Oh, come on! Aren't we told by the economic gurus here on FR that China's only hold over us is fiat currency and debt we can ignore? We get their "stuff" and all they get is paper?
I can't say it and not have the post pulled.
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:47:30 AM PDT
by
raybbr
(It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
To: Flavius
Thank God the US doesn’t mine this stuff anymore!
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:49:25 AM PDT
by
Psycho_Bunny
(ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
To: Flavius
And for certain technologies, researchers say there are potential alternatives to rare earths. The leading technology in electric batteries, nickel metal hydride, requires them, but a possible alternative, lithium ion, does not. In any case batteries are useless without motors to turn. We could kiss efficiency goodbye, and go back to wound-field motors, and not use Co/Sm or Nd/Fe/B magnets in them, I guess.
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT
by
Gorzaloon
(Roark, Architect.)
To: Psycho_Bunny
>> Thank God the US doesnt mine this stuff anymore!
Yeah, it might make someone sick, or (God forbid!) dig up a golden-cheeked spotted spider burrow or something.
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posted on
07/04/2009 7:55:44 AM PDT
by
Nervous Tick
(Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
To: Psycho_Bunny
You need to include the /sarc, or people will conclude that you are uneducated.
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posted on
07/04/2009 8:06:55 AM PDT
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
To: Psycho_Bunny
Al Gore would have fits if the U.S. mined that stuff anymore.
Just think of how terrible long strand asbestos is in the ground.
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posted on
07/04/2009 8:12:30 AM PDT
by
Sundog
(I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
To: Sundog
unless it was discovered on his land in TN...
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posted on
07/04/2009 8:20:21 AM PDT
by
stefanbatory
(Do you want a President or a King?)
To: PGR88
This is an excellent reason for America to embrace the recycle movement and keep our product in America and away from the beast that needs it in China.
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posted on
07/04/2009 8:25:01 AM PDT
by
q_an_a
To: raybbr
Pretty much, anyone supporting any type of free trade with Communist China is pretty much loony.
You sleep with Mao’s children....you go Commie....
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posted on
07/04/2009 9:13:45 AM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
To: Flavius
Global demand for rare-earth metals, meanwhile, is expected to grow at least 10 percent annually. If no new mines open, the scenarios are daunting. At best, if China continues exporting, global prices seem sure to rise. At worst, the West could be shut off altogether, left scrambling to find new sources of these metals for turbines, batteries, and other parts.I'm not a blind believer/Pollyana that science will solve everything, but, during WWII rubber was scarce because the Japs captured most of the natural-rubber producing countries. We came up with an alternative. The Nazis were running out of everything near the end of that war and came up with sometimes passable ersatz replacements. If/when we get our tail in a crack of the rare-earth scarcity, I suspect the human intellect will come up with a replacement as well.
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posted on
07/04/2009 9:19:19 AM PDT
by
Oatka
("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
To: Psycho_Bunny
I am mystified.
Why do you say “Thank God, we don’t mine this stuff anymore”?
Did you read the article to the end?
Protect your privacy. Replace Google with IXQUICK at www.ixquick.com.
If we do not wish to lose our freedom, we must learn to tolerate our
neighbor’s right to freedom even though he might express that freedom
in a manner we consider to be eccentric.
To: old curmudgeon
I was being sarcastic. Like so many other situations, the US has shot itself in the foot, here.
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posted on
07/04/2009 9:57:00 AM PDT
by
Psycho_Bunny
(ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
To: stefanbatory
You're right; Al Gore did get rich with Oil Stocks. But that's not all!
Al Gore and the Zinc Mine
Excerpt:
Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.
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posted on
07/04/2009 11:41:12 AM PDT
by
Sundog
(I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
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