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America's New Energy Dependency: China's Metals
US News ^ | July 1, 2009 | By Kent Garber

Posted on 07/04/2009 7:27:26 AM PDT by Flavius

In 2007, a standoff unfolded between China and several American companies, including W.R. Grace, a major supplier of oil refining products. China was threatening to withhold supplies that keep refiners in business.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commodity
Good thing we have nukes, if we had to build up armor we'd be screwed.
1 posted on 07/04/2009 7:27:27 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Oh well. At some point, sombody should recognize a recurring pattern of controlling behavior with China and project that pattern forward to her military buildup.


2 posted on 07/04/2009 7:46:31 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Flavius

This will happen in many other industries too. Americans have lost the sense that industry and production matter.


3 posted on 07/04/2009 7:46:43 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Flavius
Oh, come on! Aren't we told by the economic gurus here on FR that China's only hold over us is fiat currency and debt we can ignore? We get their "stuff" and all they get is paper?

I can't say it and not have the post pulled.

4 posted on 07/04/2009 7:47:30 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Flavius

Thank God the US doesn’t mine this stuff anymore!


5 posted on 07/04/2009 7:49:25 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Flavius
And for certain technologies, researchers say there are potential alternatives to rare earths. The leading technology in electric batteries, nickel metal hydride, requires them, but a possible alternative, lithium ion, does not.

In any case batteries are useless without motors to turn. We could kiss efficiency goodbye, and go back to wound-field motors, and not use Co/Sm or Nd/Fe/B magnets in them, I guess.

6 posted on 07/04/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

>> Thank God the US doesn’t mine this stuff anymore!

Yeah, it might make someone sick, or (God forbid!) dig up a golden-cheeked spotted spider burrow or something.


7 posted on 07/04/2009 7:55:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

You need to include the /sarc, or people will conclude that you are uneducated.


8 posted on 07/04/2009 8:06:55 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Al Gore would have fits if the U.S. mined that stuff anymore.

Just think of how terrible long strand asbestos is in the ground.


9 posted on 07/04/2009 8:12:30 AM PDT by Sundog (I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
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To: Sundog

unless it was discovered on his land in TN...


10 posted on 07/04/2009 8:20:21 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: PGR88

This is an excellent reason for America to embrace the recycle movement and keep our product in America and away from the beast that needs it in China.


11 posted on 07/04/2009 8:25:01 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: raybbr

Pretty much, anyone supporting any type of free trade with Communist China is pretty much loony.

You sleep with Mao’s children....you go Commie....


12 posted on 07/04/2009 9:13:45 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: Flavius
Global demand for rare-earth metals, meanwhile, is expected to grow at least 10 percent annually. If no new mines open, the scenarios are daunting. At best, if China continues exporting, global prices seem sure to rise. At worst, the West could be shut off altogether, left scrambling to find new sources of these metals for turbines, batteries, and other parts.

I'm not a blind believer/Pollyana that science will solve everything, but, during WWII rubber was scarce because the Japs captured most of the natural-rubber producing countries. We came up with an alternative. The Nazis were running out of everything near the end of that war and came up with sometimes passable ersatz replacements. If/when we get our tail in a crack of the rare-earth scarcity, I suspect the human intellect will come up with a replacement as well.

13 posted on 07/04/2009 9:19:19 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I am mystified.

Why do you say “Thank God, we don’t mine this stuff anymore”?

Did you read the article to the end?

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If we do not wish to lose our freedom, we must learn to tolerate our
neighbor’s right to freedom even though he might express that freedom
in a manner we consider to be eccentric.


14 posted on 07/04/2009 9:38:01 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

I was being sarcastic. Like so many other situations, the US has shot itself in the foot, here.


15 posted on 07/04/2009 9:57:00 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: stefanbatory
You're right; Al Gore did get rich with Oil Stocks. But that's not all!

Al Gore and the Zinc Mine

Excerpt:
Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.
16 posted on 07/04/2009 11:41:12 AM PDT by Sundog (I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
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