Posted on 07/03/2009 2:12:24 PM PDT by GOPGuide
Sanford has committed sepuku on live TV.
Ensign has discovered what goes on in Vegas does not always stay in Vegas.
Palin is retiring from politics.
Haley Barbour is a former lobbyist who runs the poorest state in the Union.
Huckabee is a 5th stringer.
John Thune is running for Vice President and we have no idea whether General Petraeus is a conservative or not.
It looks like the only guy who can stop the Mitt Machine is Daniels.
If you don't like Daniels, then Romney is the nominee by default in 2012.
And, all three seem to have principles they believe in, unlike Willard.
I’ve always considered myself mostly a libertarian and believe that Bork is the greatest legal mind not named Scalia of the last 50 years. Kennedy, Specter and Biden should rot in hell for what they did to him.
Not all libertarians are pro-choice. Abortion is manslaughter at best and Roe v. Wade is a horrific interpretation of the Constitution. How anyone can say the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment applies to abortion with a straight face is beyond me. My problems with gay marriage are that it’s being forced down our throats and the term itself is an oxymoron. I admit that I tend to be pretty libertarian when it comes to most drugs.
Is that like a special handshake or somethin' so that you all know each other?
And they all have to point out that the voted for Reagan.
In Arlen’s case I think it was envy, Biden and Kennedy malice.
Yet the Libertarian Party is and has it in their platform as is their support for homosexual marriage.
National Platform of the Libertarian Party
1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.
1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.
This statement alone is enough to sink Johnson.
This practical approach drives his notorious attitude toward drug prohibition, which Johnson has attacked more forcefully and visibly than any other elected official in America today. He rails against the drug war mostly, though not exclusively, on the grounds that it is inefficient. In general, he is more interested in pragmatic concerns than in defending anything as abstract as inalienable rights. When I bring up prostitution, another consensual crime, he endorses decriminalization, but not on the grounds that people own their bodies or that its not the states business. Instead he frames his response this way: "Given that prostitution takes place, the question is, Are you safer engaging a prostitute in Nevada or New Mexico? I think you are clearly safer engaging one in Nevada in a licensed prostitution establishment."
Right before they tell you that Reagan supported abortion.
Gary Johnson is probably too Libertarian for many conventional conservatives. But he was a good Governor.
MItch Daniels has run the state of Indiana well. He has been mostly successful in facing down the ‘Rats in the state legislature. He was helped by a Republican-controlled state Senate.
My favorite is when they say that they are a “Goldwater conservative” and then get all quiet when it’s pointed out that Goldwater is the GOP’s version of McGovern or Mondale and that conservatism only succeeded when Reagan added social conservatism to Goldwater’s fiscal and pro-military conservatism.
I’d vote for Gary. Compare his tenure to that of King Bill...what a contrast!
That's when they bring out the "bigot" weapon.
The funny thing is that I don’t recall a single Catholic FReeper accusing anyone of anti-Catholic bigotry for bashing Rooty.
And you’re technically safer having an abortion from someone with clean equipment, a clean OR, and medical training.
That, however, does not make abortion right, good, or desirable.
I’ll never vote for Romney. Even if, by some disaster, he ends up in the general against Obama.
Hard to be sure with all the polygamy in the family. In his direct line, I guess you are right. I see that his father George headed the Automotive Council for War Production during WW2, so he made a contribution. The brother of his great grandfather Miles Pratt Romney, also named George Romney, appears to have been in the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, which fought against the U.S. Army in the 1858 Utah War. BTW, Im no Romney-bot, just a history buff. [Drubyfive]
The Mormon Times ran an article yesterday surrounding a conference on Mitt Romney's direct ancestor, Parley P. Pratt. The title of the article? Parley P. Pratt and America's Patriotic Betrayal [The Mormons framed the article as if America betrayed Pratt -- not the other way around...how "patriotic" of them! In 1839, Pratt was in jail for attempted murder; in 1856, he added a 12th wife to his harem -- marrying a woman, Eleanor McLean, who was already--and still--married to another man]
Excerpt from that article: The next Independence Day [1839] found Pratt in jail for attempted murder for his role in defending the church at a battle with the mob...Pratt's confidence was waning in the United States. He recognized its role in being the cradle of the Restoration, but saw its future as bleak. In a fictional dream of the future, Pratt wrote of the republic's ultimate downfall. "The spirit of freedom withdrew from the mass. Divisions and contentions arose and thus ended the confederation under the title of E Pluribus Unum." The martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith seemed to be the last straw. In 1844 and 1845, Pratt was in the eastern United States. He received a letter from Lyman Littlefield written from Nauvoo on the Fourth of July. "...American liberty expired with the prophets at their martyrdom in Carthage jail." Pratt longed to leave New York and return to Nauvoo or to a mission to the American Indians. He was "now done with this city and nearly so with the nation." The work of God and the progress of the United States were no longer one and the same, Tobler said. There was to be a bright future, but it didn't include America...Brigham Young agreed with a request from the United States to raise the Mormon Battalion. "On July 9, 1846, Parley Pratt, his disillusionment concealed, transcended or forgotten, communicated Young's endorsement of the call to arms to the reluctant Saints," Tobler said...The act of raising the battalion re-attached the LDS Church to the American Republic, Tobler said...
(Yeah, that's what we need...church-based battle battalions...I'm sure Romney can resurrect that on behalf of his ancestor...)
So is a Pratt from his male line or one of the wives of a male ancestor?
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