Posted on 07/03/2009 7:30:36 AM PDT by Evil Slayer
See how many support prez eligibility bill now.
U.S. Rep. Marsha Blackburn, a Tennessee Republican, has become the sixth co-sponsor of a proposal by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., that would require documentation of eligibility from presidential candidates.
She has joined Reps. John Campbell, R-Calif.; John R. Carter, R-Texas; John Culberson, R-Texas; Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.; and Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, in support Posey's H.R. 1503 plan.
The bill's provisions are simple:
"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
It also provides:
"Congress finds that under section 5 of article II of the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."
The sponsors' goal is to have the bill become effective for the 2012 presidential election, and it now is pending in a committee of the U.S. House of Representatives.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
My question is simple.....WE ALREADY HAVE A LAW. IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION. INFORCE IT NOW!!!
ENFORCE THESE NOW!!!!
This group has learned the tricks of the trade quite quickly.
Whoops! Wrong thread. Yes, we have the constitution, but the current bunch is trampling it with CZARS as a for instance.
Catch and expose this Manchurian Candidate NOW!!!
Congress finds????? DUH!!!!! Well, well, isn't that a hoot!!! Took this long??? Where were they before the election??? And they have to create a bill that says the same thing?? Stupid, stupid, stupid !!! Enforce the Constitution. Demand bambi produce his REAL long form BC. If he doesn't, handcuff him and deport him back to Kenya. No need for impeachment since he isn't a legal president anyway but a simple impostor and a fraud that slipped in under the radar with the blessings of the MSM and the STUPIDS that were so gullible to vote for him.
Close that barn door. And as you close the door look over your shoulder and you will see the horse’s ass that already got out, running away, (with our country).
Great post!
As a country, we have great enthusiasm for creating laws but little commitment to enforcing them.
Democrats could all sign onto the bill knowing that our non citizen president would veto it. 0 knows he is a cruel joke on America, one that Americans deserve, and Democrats in Congress are laughing it up.
Ultimately our experiment in self-rule is built upon a foundation of good will and basic moral honesty. We must be, as a nation, honest people of good will.
There is no possible way to write enough laws or tight enough laws to corral and control a society composed of men of evil hearts. Can't be done!
For me, the turning point was the 2000 election recount in Florida. I realized that I could never again have a liberal ( they are really Marxists) for a friend. Where was the honest good will? Liberals ( really they are Marxists) are either too evil or too stupid.
Good post. The Founding Fathers understandably could not conceive of a situation where a clever wolf, aided by its pack, would be elected to guard the sheep(le).
And technically, the states ought to have such laws on the books, since in theory state appointed electors choose the president.
If the bill is blocked, that shows the country that Obama is clearly hiding something.
You are incorrect in this assumption. Here is the case.
Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:
" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”
Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19
TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES
Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “
Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:
” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:
The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.
The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.
There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.
” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?
If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.
Congress, because it is given the responsibility to name a replacement in the cases of health, death, or "qualification", MUST know the answer to all three of these conditions. Otherwise, how would it know whether or not to become involved in replacing? This alone means that ANY member of Congress can demand that eligibility be proven by anyone wanting to be President. We have a law. It's just being ignored. Based upon the above, I conclude that:
1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.
2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.
3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.
Americans should feel insulted, used, and disgusted as I do that a con like this has been perpetuated on us. Americans who know or those who will not even seek the truth about this person’s BC should be ashamed of themselves. Unfortunately half of America just couldn’t care less as long as they still believe this guy is going to put more money in their pockets and bank accounts, well how is it working out for you greedy morons, selling out your country for a buck. I heard some of them talking when I went to vote against this puke, it was all about money and the economy. If there were ever any doubt it became clear to me that night as to why democrats always get a larger percentage vote of certain groups, idiots! At the very least the dude is hiding something and it’s obvious.
If this Bill ever gets to the Senate I hope it passes.
Money, power and pride. Together these are the three evils that enslave us all. The devil must be laughing at us right about now.
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