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To: MindBender26; A.Hun; Bob J; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Petronski; Blackacre
Please see The Federal Grand Jury is the 4th Branch of Government by Attorney Leo C. Donofrio, J.D. January 22, 2009

Antonin Scalia effectively codified the unique independent power of the Fourth Branch into the hands of all citizens sitting as federal grand jurors. In discussing that power and unique independence granted to the grand jury, the United States Supreme Court, in United States v. Williams, 504 U.S. 36 at 48 (1992), Justice Scalia, delivering the opinion of the court, laid down the law of the land:
“‘[R]ooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history,” Hannah v. Larche, 363 U.S. 420, 490 (1960) (Frankfurter, J., concurring in result), the grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It “`is a constitutional fixture in its own right.’” United States v. Chanen, 549 F.2d 1306, 1312 (CA9 1977) (quoting Nixon v. Sirica, 159 U.S. App. D.C. 58, 70, n. 54, 487 F.2d 700, 712, n. 54 (1973)), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 825 (1977). ‘ “
If you bother to read the entire commentary, you will find that it is not so crazy as you might believe.
50 posted on 07/03/2009 12:26:48 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: PuzzledInTX

You can’t tell the difference between a Federal Grand Jury and a ‘citizen’s Grand Jury’?


52 posted on 07/03/2009 12:33:13 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: PuzzledInTX
Antonin Scalia effectively codified the unique independent power of the Fourth Branch into the hands of all citizens sitting as federal grand jurors.

Scalia speaks of "federal grand jurors" NOT "citizen grand jurors."

He is referring to a GJ empaneled by FedGov, NOT a GJ empaneled by itself.

53 posted on 07/03/2009 12:33:43 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: PuzzledInTX
I read the commentary. The Citizens’ Grand Jury idea is not as crazy as it sounds. It is MUCH crazier.

Associate Justice was not in any way referring to some self-appointed “citizens’ grand jury.”

This is all part of the Income Tax is unconstitutional, no federal felony trials or sentences are legal if the court in which they are tried or handed down has a U.S flag in it, etc. crowd.

Finally regarding Mr. Donofrio’s opinion. Too bad the courts do not agree with him. I would remind you of other lawyers’ statements, such as Johnny Cochran's assurance that O.J was not guilty, Lynne Stewart promise that she is a patriotic American, and the assertions of two former Aranses lawyers that “It Takes A Village” and “I did not have sex with that woman, Mz Lewinski!”

56 posted on 07/03/2009 1:44:47 PM PDT by MindBender26 (The Hellfire Missile is one of the wonderful ways God shows us he loves American Soldiers & Marines)
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