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Romney Urges Republicans to 'Stand Up' to Obama's Policies [as he extols the virtues of Romney Care]
Fox News ^ | 2009-07-01

Posted on 07/01/2009 8:31:12 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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On health care, Romney pointed to the successes of his own plan but criticized Obama's for its emphasis on a public option.

"The president's plan makes an enormous error by saying we're going to put government into the insurance business. We got everyone in Massachusetts insured and we did it without putting government into the insurance business," he said. "We said instead we're going to help people get private free enterprise kind of insurance they can buy from a number of different companies."

He said the system led to plunging premiums while offering a healthy choice of options for consumers.

"It's working well. We got 440,000 more people insured than when the plan was put in place, it costs less than 2 percent of the state budget -- it's a plan that's working, it's a good model," he said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Massachusetts
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To: rhombus

Calling a liar just that - a liar.


81 posted on 07/01/2009 10:27:11 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Deb
The guy shot you down and you got nothing.

Only in your GOP apologist world.

You don't even know the first thing about Kerick

I know Kerick was convicted of corruption, and has more charges pending. And you don't think that's a big deal. Which tells me all I need to know abou your charater, or lack thereof.

82 posted on 07/01/2009 10:28:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Hahaha, this from the moron who won't admit Perot was the reason GHW Bush lost. I'll put my "charater" up against yours anyday, Fluffy.

You really are in over your head on this site. The facts are out there, just sober up and look.

83 posted on 07/01/2009 10:34:18 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
Hahaha, this from the moron who won't admit Perot was the reason GHW Bush lost.

Yeah, Deb - never admit it was Bush's leftward drift and his violation of his no new taxes ban. It's always someone else's fault when you are an apologist for the GOP.

I'll put my "charater" up against yours anyday, Fluffy.

I'd expect nothing less from someone as deluded as you.

You really are in over your head on this site.

Yeah, sure, Deb. The GOP lost in 2006 and 2008 because they drifted away from core principles and accepted petty corruption. Just like you.

The facts are out there, just sober up and look.

Yeah, Deb. Continue with your delusions. Pretend the GOP can do nothing wrong. It's a great way for the party to avoid self-examination and perpetuate its recent losses.

84 posted on 07/01/2009 10:45:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I am still trying to figure out if there was even a weapon to fire the so called “shot”...

Seems those pushing the “Reagan was an active abortion supporter/Adamantly pro choice” bit are at best firing blanks...


85 posted on 07/01/2009 10:50:23 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: rabscuttle385
Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney called on Republicans to "stand up" to President Obama and his policies on the economy, health care and energy, in a wide-ranging interview with FOX News.

Yup, Romney can do the wide-ranging interview with Fox, or even hostile MSM interviewers, with no drama, no handlers, no teleprompter, no mis-steps, no uhms, speak in complete paragraphs, make good sound bites, and take on Obama and the Democrats.

Not all GOP Presidential hopefuls can do this, and none with such ease.

86 posted on 07/01/2009 10:58:29 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
no mis-steps,

Calling Romney-care a success is beyond a mis-step. It's a bald-faced lie.

87 posted on 07/01/2009 11:01:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Plutarch; broncobilly
Per my post on the other thread, the one that contains my observation as follows:

We have an almost uncanny correlation between posters who are both Mitt supporters and Palin bashers.

Too easy...

I rest my case...

Yet again...

88 posted on 07/01/2009 11:12:03 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: rhombus
Did you vote for Reagan? I did and I did it despite the fact that he once supported abortion.

If he was an abortion supporter then you must have quotes and articles he wrote pushing his abortion agenda, please post them because I have never seen them.

89 posted on 07/01/2009 11:20:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ejonesie22

The correlation I am most concerned with is that those who have difficulty being objective also tend to be losers.
Whipping yourself into an anti Romney frenzy will do nothing for putting a conservative in the White House.
My hope is that Haley Barbour will be the next president and Sarah the next vp.


90 posted on 07/01/2009 11:22:37 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

Wow..

What a change. Seems you were more interested in subjecting us to your man Mitt than any objective facts that he was a non starter.

So can I expect a sharp decline in your shilling for Mitt and a good be for a real Conservative like Haley.


91 posted on 07/01/2009 11:26:01 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: rhombus
I also refuse to be sucked into the “real conservative” great pumpkin watch this time around.

That's a great line!

Not even Ronald Reagan would be considered a "real conservative" by many of the purist idiots on this forum.

92 posted on 07/01/2009 11:31:33 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: ejonesie22

I have defended Romney against irrational smears. I have not promoted him for president.
So you won’t see a sharp decline in anything other than my giving up trying to help people see their own self interest.


93 posted on 07/01/2009 11:38:04 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: Plutarch

Yup, Romney can do the wide-ranging interview with Fox, or even hostile MSM interviewers, with no drama, no handlers, no teleprompter, no mis-steps, no uhms, speak in complete paragraphs, make good sound bites, and take on Obama and the Democrats.


One of the most vicious false attacks that I have ever seen by a republican politician (below), Romney promoted this lie for months and he has succeeded in making it a permanent part of an anti Reagan mythology.

M. ROMNEY: My greatest mistake was when I first ran for office being deeply opposed to abortion but saying I’d support the current law, which was pro-choice and effectively a pro-choice position. That was just wrong.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WALLACE: Governor, back then you said a lot more than just you support the current law. We took a look at what you said when you were running for the Senate in 1994 and also running for governor in 2002. Here it is.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

M. ROMNEY: I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WALLACE: For eight years — eight years — you said that you would protect and respect a woman’s right to choose.

M. ROMNEY: Yes. Yeah, that’s right. And then when I became governor — I don’t know what’s so unusual about this, but when I became governor and when legislation was brought to my desk that dealt with life, and I sat down and I said, “Am I going to sign this? Because I personally oppose abortion. Am I going to sign this?”

And I brought in theologians. I brought in scientists, took it apart — this related to embryonic cloning. And I said, “I simply have to come down on the side of life,” and wrote an op-ed piece in the Boston Globe and said, “Look, here is why I am pro-life.”

And I laid out in my view that a civilized society must respect the sanctity of life. And you know what? I’m following in some pretty good footsteps.

It’s exactly what Ronald Reagan did. As governor, he was adamantly pro-choice. He became pro-life as he experienced life.


94 posted on 07/01/2009 11:41:32 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Plutarch

Here is Romney before the above interview, this time contradicting the Fox interview that he gave days later, A man as dishonest and as compulsively driven to lie as Romney is, can appear smooth to many people but there is a reason that voters are so unresponsive to Mitt Romney, they sense his willingness to say or be anything at the moment.

‘’I am pro-life,’’ Mr. Romney said. ‘’I was not always pro-life, but I’m proud I made the same discovery that Ronald Reagan did and Henry Hyde and George Herbert Walker Bush.’’

Later, in Grundy Center, he told voters that his past support of abortion rights was ‘’probably my greatest mistake in the public sphere.’’

‘’I was wrong on that,’’ he told reporters later, adding, ‘’If I could go back and turn back the clock, I would have been pro-life a lot earlier.’’


95 posted on 07/01/2009 11:57:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Reagan was by no means an “abortion supporter”. However he was in a similar situation with Romney in that he did what he could in a very liberal state which is what I was trying to argue. National Review has a pretty good article about the soul searching Reagan went through before signing the bill knowing that if he didn’t sign it his veto would be overridden. To Regan’s credit he did try to alter the bill before signing it. Like I said, he did what he could.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2RmNWRlYmIwMDc5ZjkzZTViMzBiYjc3ZDYyZTc4YTg=&w=MA==


96 posted on 07/01/2009 11:58:34 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rabscuttle385
"On health care, Romney pointed to the successes of his own plan..."

LOL!

Just ask a Mass. resident what they think of his new plan: Rasmussen pollsters did, and they found that only 26% think it has been a success.

97 posted on 07/01/2009 12:05:50 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: ejonesie22
We have an almost uncanny correlation between posters who are both Mitt supporters and Palin bashers.

What Palin bashing? Throwing out an accusation based on nothing, ej22?

98 posted on 07/01/2009 12:06:42 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: rhombus

Reagan was never an abortion supporter and Romney was a lifelong pro abortion crusader, passionately campaigning for “pro-choice” and even working with Planned Parenthood to raise abortion funds for them.

Romney was an adult, a son of a presidential candidate father and a senatorial candidate mother when Roe Wade happened.

Romney stayed pro abortion during those years and during the Reagan years and during the Gingrich years, through all of the abortion wars of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and the first half of the 2000s, Romney was an effective spokesman for abortion “rights”, in preparation for his national campaign Romney suddenly claimed that an epiphany turned him pro-life, an epiphany based on a conversation with a researcher that says that it never happened.


99 posted on 07/01/2009 12:06:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rhombus; Deb
Reagan was by no means an “abortion supporter”.

Funny, you said this in post 43:

I did and I did it despite the fact that he once supported abortion.

What a two-faced weasel. You change your own claims IN THE SAME THREAD.

So, Deb, you still think rhombus 'shot me in the ass?' - more like he just shot himself in the foot.

100 posted on 07/01/2009 12:10:07 PM PDT by dirtboy
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