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In a Coup in Honduras, Ghosts of Past U.S. Policies
NY Times ^ | June 30, 2009 | HELENE COOPER and MARC LACEY

Posted on 06/30/2009 8:55:16 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON — President Obama on Monday strongly condemned the ouster of Honduras’s president as an illegal coup that set a “terrible precedent” for the region, as the country’s new government defied international calls to return the toppled president to power and clashed with thousands of protesters.

“We do not want to go back to a dark past,” Mr. Obama said, in which military coups override elections. “We always want to stand with democracy,” he added.

The crisis in Honduras, where members of the country’s military abruptly awakened President Manuel Zelaya on Sunday and forced him out of the country in his bedclothes, is pitting Mr. Obama against the ghosts of past American foreign policy in Latin America.

The United States has a history of backing rival political factions...

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On the diplomatic front, three of the country’s neighbors — Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua — said they would halt commerce along their borders for 48 hours. Beyond that, Venezuela and some of its allies, including Ecuador, Bolivia, Nicaragua and Cuba, said they were withdrawing their ambassadors from Honduras in an effort to isolate the new government. Brazil also said it had ordered its ambassador to Honduras, who was out of the country at the time of the coup, not to return until further notice.

In the face of criticism from across the hemisphere, the new government hunkered down in Mr. Zelaya’s old office, ringed by soldiers and defending its actions as a bid to save the country’s democracy, not undermine it.

Roberto Micheletti, the veteran congressional leader who was sworn in by his fellow lawmakers on Sunday to replace Mr. Zelaya, seemed to plead with the world to understand that Mr. Zelaya’s arrest by the army had been under an official arrest warrant based on his flouting of the Constitution...

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TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bholatinamerica; chavas; honduras; obama; zelaya
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1 posted on 06/30/2009 8:55:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Stupid New York Trash.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 8:57:16 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: neverdem
"President Obama on Monday strongly condemned the ouster of Honduras’s president as an illegal coup that set a “terrible precedent” for the region..."

Note that our Communist in Chief condemns the Honduran military's removal of a hardcore dictator, and the loser is totally silent when fascists brutally murder, arrest and attack pro-democracy students in Iran.

What worthless piece of sh!t 0bama is.

Hey 0bama, you communist POS...


3 posted on 06/30/2009 8:59:07 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

I very agree on that. The New York Times should be used a lining for birdcages


4 posted on 06/30/2009 8:59:13 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: neverdem
This is, quite simply, the Big Lie. The military has overturned a usurper, legally, at the behest of the country's Supreme Court, and a civilian replacement has been installed according to the Honduran Constitution, who will be holding elections according to the Honduran Constitution. No Presidents for Life there unless 0bama and the NY Times have their way. If they do it will be one of the most shameful betrayals of legal democratic process in U.S. history. The Times ought to be ashamed of itself.
5 posted on 06/30/2009 8:59:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

NY Times pining for the marxist dick-tater to be allowed to return


6 posted on 06/30/2009 9:00:17 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Billthedrill

You are correct!


7 posted on 06/30/2009 9:00:34 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like a “blame the republicans” monument.


8 posted on 06/30/2009 9:00:53 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: neverdem
If this guy returns to Honduras, he needs to be arrested. It was he who was attmpeting the coup. He was willingly and knowingly subverting the Honduran constitution which he was sworn to defend.

His attempt to call for a constituional convention through a referendum that the executive branch was going to hold, was blatantly unconstitutional and had been ruled as such by the Hinduran supreme court...but he was going to go ahead with it anyway. So, in an effort to save their constitutional republic, the Supreme Court and a majortiy of the legislature had him aprehended and ousted by the military.

Now the legislature has put in place an interim government and their will be new elections.

Obama and every other marxist in this Hemisphere is upset because another attempt to force marxism has been thwarted.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

NOW WE KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES

OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

A JULY 4TH TEA PARTY SPEECH IN AMERICA

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

9 posted on 06/30/2009 9:01:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: neverdem

I understand looking inward, but not everything’s our fault. Why so vain, NYT? The world isn’t run from Washington.


10 posted on 06/30/2009 9:02:31 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: pissant

This guy needs to be Allended. They have been too kind to him. Chile has done pretty well since the Allended Allende.


11 posted on 06/30/2009 9:02:31 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: neverdem

“-the country’s neighbors — Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua — said they would halt commerce along their borders for 48 hours”

Nice neighbors-putting the screws to Honduras for following the rule of law.


12 posted on 06/30/2009 9:06:32 PM PDT by Selene
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To: neverdem
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13 posted on 06/30/2009 9:06:48 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Oldexpat

Alls well that allended well


14 posted on 06/30/2009 9:11:50 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: neverdem

...hanging the Hondurans out to dry in favor of Communist Tyrants....


15 posted on 06/30/2009 9:24:28 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Billthedrill; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; ...
This is, quite simply, the Big Lie.

Calling it a coup is, and others are using similar terminology, but the story's writers don't get to pick the title, IMHO. Some editor in NYC does. Otherwise, I thought the Times told fairly well most of the elements of the story that I've read so far. I was pleasantly surprised.

A 'COUP' TO PROTECT A CONSTITUTION: HONDURAS OUSTS A ROGUE PRESIDENT

A Coup In Honduras (A Chavez acolyte is ousted.)

The Honduran Counter-Coup

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

16 posted on 06/30/2009 9:28:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Although it pains me to admit it, you’re right. There is fair analysis in there. The headline writer is, as usual, attempting to spin the thing.


17 posted on 06/30/2009 9:34:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 06/30/2009 9:35:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem
These jaspers are so transparent.

Whatever their flacks in the press start accusing you of, you can bet that is what they are doing or planning.

President Obama on Monday strongly condemned the ouster of Honduras’s president as an illegal coup

The guy was impeached and removed from office. That was not a coup; the coup is exactly what Obama and Chavez are planning right now. They are going to impose by force a Chavist dictator on the Hondurans.

“We do not want to go back to a dark past,” Mr. Obama said, in which military coups override elections.

There was no military coup. There was no election overriden.

“We always want to stand with democracy,”

No, he wants to impose a Chavist dictatorship and he is prepared to use force to do it.

Amazing that you can pack so many lies into just a very few lines. And amazing that he will turn his talents to the overthrow of the Honduran government while toadying to the dictator in Tehran.

Either he likes toadying, or he likes dictators. Or the idea of a renegade president being impeached and removed the congress and the Supreme Court just scares the snot out of him. Take your pick. I'm open.

19 posted on 06/30/2009 9:39:12 PM PDT by marron
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To: neverdem
Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua — said they would halt commerce along their borders for 48 hours

So no more cocaine shipments for 48 hours??
20 posted on 06/30/2009 9:47:55 PM PDT by Fred (Obama Throws the Iranian Citizens Under the Bus)
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