Maybe you should think things through. What about debt? Based on population percentage Texas’ share of the federal debt is about $900 billion. That’s a sizeable nut to take on right off the bat. You need to establish and fund your own military, your own diplomatic corps, your own regulatory agencies - I’m assuming you’ll still want your food inspected? Some of your state agencies can like the judiciary and education can be expanded to take on a national role without too much additional expense, but roughly a third of Texas is on some sort of government support - Social Security, Disability, Food Stamps, Unemployment, etc. - and what do you do about them? Air traffic control? Nice to have. Setting up a country isn’t easy or cheap, and there’s more to it than thumbing your nose at those you’re leaving.
What debt...we pay in more than we receive....besides Texas is not in defacet territory. The US can keep its debt....we will keep our oil, natural gas, chemicals, agriculture...etc.
Social Security, Disability, Food Stamps, Unemployment, etc.
Not gonna do it....only those that are truly disabled should get assistance. Like Alaska, the oil & gas resources could become a source of income for the disabled and elderly.
Nah, but a bunch of us have recent and current experience participating in setting up one that is even harder to establish, so that will be beneficial. :)
According to this, the debt foisted off on Texas for the cap-and-trade debacle is going to be even higher.
Texas is NOT liable for what the federal government decides to do if it is outside of its enumerated powers to do so.
Texas is one OF ONLY SEVEN States that are still fiscally solvent, and as the map shows, the primary beneficiaries are the most debited states.
The feds can take their wealth-distribution debt created by their own unconstitutional actions and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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The Constitution is not a suicide pact!
Our military would do quite nicely if staffed only with Texans currently in the military.
Keep in mind we wouldn't find it necessary to post Texans in for example Kosovo.
And as for a diplomatic corps? Big savings opportunity by not having anything to do with the UN!
We could make Rep. Sam Johnson our Secretary of State.
And finally: Keep in mind that we in Texas wouldn't feel it necessary to duplicate every idiotic government bureau found in Washington - in fact, that's sorta THE POINT of this secession talk, you see.
Screw that ... just think of it as the nice state level version of a charge off and telling the fed to pi$$ off.
Maybe you should think things through.
(OK...)
What about debt?
(What Debt? You mean that share/precentage Texas owns...Who says we own that??? Where did Texas generate or spend beyond its means???)
Based on population percentage Texas’ share of the federal debt is about $900 billion. That’s a sizeable nut to take on right off the bat.
(Why??? Cause you say so???)
You need to establish and fund your own military,
(Ok, I do not see a problem there because we already have one...)
your own diplomatic corps,
(That’s easy...Ask for volunteers)
your own regulatory agencies - I’m assuming you’ll still want your food inspected?
(sure, most states were doing that to some degree and standard before Uncle Sucky came along and federalized it...)
Some of your state agencies can like the judiciary and education can be expanded to take on a national role without too much additional expense,
(Why do you think that??? And why would they need to expand??? To make up some kind of vacumn created when we do not have the Federal government getting in the way???)
but roughly a third of Texas is on some sort of government support - Social Security, Disability, Food Stamps, Unemployment, etc. - and what do you do about them?
(we seem to be doing fine taking care of our own, and then some, remember the Katrina folks???...Our unemployment rolls are growing but we are not backrupting, like a few other states, the money going out to that increasing population...Same thing with the other welfare and support agencies)
Air traffic control? Nice to have.
(Sure, you bet...)
Setting up a country isn’t easy or cheap, and there’s more to it than thumbing your nose at those you’re leaving.
(Fair enough...)
Seems to me that there are too many people dependent upon a Federal government doing things for them, instead of them doing for themselves...
The only thumbing noses around here are people thinking that if Texas or any other state decides to dissolve its political bonds and other obligations (mainly taxes) to the “central government” that the other states that are yet to consider doing the same thing will somehow suffer...
Well you are absolutely right about that...Texas happens to be on the negative side of Federal assistance anyway...Meaning we send out more tax dollars to the Federal government than we get back...Its not even an even give and take...
Texas is not alone in that regard either...So if we split...The rest of the United States will just need to figure out how to do without our charity for a while...
And since our tax dollars are not going to D.C. to be re-distributed...That same money, maybe even a little less generated revenue can still take care of all those things you mentioned above...
Commerce, trade and imports will still be conducted just like before...Just the money exchanged will be a little different...
The only thing I have a concern about is the probability that some in the United States may have a problem with us doing this...Tough noogies...If you guys want to fight...Everyone loses in that event...But Texas will prevail...
I want to see if any other state can muster 300,000 riflemen in an hour...
By all means, the capability of a rifleman on his home turf is much more capable than tanks, planes and other interesting hardware...Because we have that stuff too...And we make it here...
I would actually prefer not to secede from the Union...But some people just want to push it too far...
I think we can all reverse what has happened over the last few months...You just have to have tha courage to do it in a more civilized manner...We can start sending that message here in the local elections comng up this next November...
And in 2010 do it again...
I mean by all means everyone can sit there and get mad at Texas and a few other states making noise like this...If you want to waste your time because you live in a state that is so sucked up into depending on Washington D.C., then thats your problem...
Be mad at me if you want...I would love for y’all to prove me wrong and send a few dunderheads home from their cushy elected jobs in D.C. and put some principled people in there for a change...Might do us ALL some good...
There is always an answer to everything you said up there...A solution is only a ballot away every two years...
Texas shouldn’t have any “share of the federal debt” if they sucede. They have the TX National Guard; they have diplomats, and they have a gutful of regulatory agencies we don’t need. In what fairy tale do you think our food is actually inspected?? They need nothing but local judges and local schools - what agencies?? State money (tax sent to DC, returned to the state but only in part) pays for food stamps - unemployment is State (with Fed meddling). SS/SSD can be dealt with. Air traffic control? Excuse me, Texas doesn’t have control towers at their airports? Setting up a country ... exactly why? Texas is already a sovereign state. And it was a free Republic before it was a state.
I’m old and I don’t have any degrees; this is oversimplification and partly off the wall, but it’s to prove a point - that a new Republic of Texas would not be a mini-America and not accept the loss of liberty _and simplicity_ that they once had. I’m another who would rather deal with the summer heat there than die where I am during an ice storm with no heat. I’m another who will not live in a socialist/communist country. I was an active anti-communist in Texas in the 1960s, and I still believe neither will they. All my kids, grandkids, and great-grands are still there or gone back there - only I am not. I’ve told them all to come and get me the minute Texas sucedes. And I wasn’t even born there, but most of them were. I have an in. And I’m fixin to use it. :-)