Aloha, 'star wars': Obama bluffs on defending Hawaii

The Washington Times ^ | June 29, 2009 | Editorial

[Abakumov]

The Obama administration seized headlines June 18 when the Defense Department stated that the United States would deploy ground- and sea-based missile-defense assets to protect Hawaii. This was a response to North Korea's threat to launch a long-range missile on July 4 toward the islands. However, new information suggests that the administration is bluffing and our defenses are inadequate to get the job done.

[monday]

“Kim Jung Mentally-Il has no such capabilities.”

He is dying. He would desperately love to be remembered in the history books for doing something important. He is a murdering despot. What more could a murdering despot want than to be remembered for murdering millions in a nuclear war? The only thing saving Hawaii is the fact that he doesn't have the technology to nuke it, not that he wouldn't if he could.

[epow]

Oops, sorry about that, I should have said Pyongyang. I guess I had another communist devil’s den in my mind when I typed that misnomer.

[epow]

I have tried to reply your post #60 several times but my posts aren’t getting through to the forum for some unknown reason. I don’t suppose this one will either, but if it does I now realize my mistake thanks to your post. I meant to say Pyongyang of course.

[El Gato]

Obama has no intention of defending the United States against any enemy - foreign or domestic.

The pResident's oath did not say anything about defending the United States, only the Constitution. Nothing about enemies either.

Of course he had no intent of doing that either. He is a domestic enemy of both the United States and its Constitution.

He and Hitlary apparently don't put much stock in constitutions, Iranian, Honduran or that of the United States.

[El Gato]

I know, I know, I know. Nobody truly believed Hitler would invade Poland or Japan would bomb Pearl Harbor but, c'mon, those countries actually had war-making capabilities.

Conventional wisdom was that the Japanese were little four eyed dwarfs with no technology. Yea good again defenseless Chinese peasants, but not US. Well that turned out to be wrong.

That said, Lil Kim has not yet *demonstrated* that he has something that can reach Hawaii. Best estimates, which could be way off, are that the basic design of his missile isn't quite good enough to reach Hawaii, but that it could reach Alaska with ease. It could also reach Midway atoll.

If I was Kimbo and wanted to tweak the nose of the running Yellow Dog capitalists (Capitalists? We seem to be running short of those, but I guess Kim hasn't got the word on that yet.), I would try to drop my dummy warhead into the lagoon at Midway.

If, OTOH, I was serious about doing real damage, Anchorage would be the target.

[El Gato]

It’s in his “agreement” isn’t it?

Nope it's not, even if he'd recited it correctly.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: — "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

You can read of Article II of the Constitution, there's nothing in there about the President being obliged to defend the country, although the tools to do so are placed into his hands there.

[El Gato]

Send in the clowns

Don't bother, they're here.

[El Gato]

If the PRK manages to convert the beautiful Hawaiian Islands into mounds of glowing green glass, then the COLB argument becomes moot.

Unless a Canadian or Kenyan/British Birth Certificate can be found.

[El Gato]

Has it only been 5 months???

Yep, only 43 more to go. Depressing isn't it?

[El Gato]

The USS Lake Erie has been credited with kills on the test range

Sure, but nothing screaming in at mach 23 to Mach 25. Those missiles are designed for shorter range missiles. The longer the range, the higher the reentry velocity.

We once had missiles capable of stopping incoming from even farther away than Hawaii is from NK. In fact we had two. Spartan and Sprint, collectively known as Sentinel with a latter downgraded(in 1967!) version, actually deployed known as Safeguard. Site was in North Dakota, where it protected our own Minuteman ICBMs from a first strike. The American Safeguard system was only briefly operational (for a matter of several months). The Soviet system (now called A-135 "Galosh") has been improved over the decades, and it is still operational around Moscow

[TalonDJ]

Kim Jung Mentally-Il has no such capabilities

He has the capability to nuke Tokyo, thereby crippling the second largest economy in the world and then invading the south which would probably obliterate Soul and take out much of the 15th largest economy. Triple worse case is doing those two while selling a nuke to terrorists and having them blow it up in NY on a boat.
What do you think all that would do to the global economy?
Yeah, he has capabilities.

[Jonah Hex]

Hehe... no prob. We all got bollixed up by the crash.

[Nevermore]

Kim Jung Mentally-Il has no such capabilities. He has one bullet. Ubama would HAVE to respond overwhelmingly.

You're joking, right? You're thinking far too rationally. Both Kim & BO are mentally deficient; obviously, they're both are megalomaniacs. For a guy in Kim's situation, a cornered animal with nothing to lose, it can lead to him doing something truly stupid; and to BO (one nut-case to another) Kim seems pretty normal...just misunderstood. That is precisely why this is a dangerous situation.

[BIGLOOK]

Thanks for the skinny, El Gato. You're right but the DPRK hasn't successfully attained low earth orbit yet (or even 'just into space' at 100 km) and I doubt they'll do it in the near future. That still leaves a piece of junk that'll be headed our way (or Japan's or Russia's way, both have stated they'll shoot it down if it intrudes their air space). If the missile actually attains orbit, who knows where it'll come down; the Korcoms may be able to launch a three stage missile but do they have the control and guidance systems to make it do what it was intended to do?

Problem is, their success could trigger a confrontation and their failure could do the same.

[television is just wrong]

can’t that be considered treason?,, oh wait, he can’t be wrong, cause he is black