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U.S.'s debtor status worsens dramatically; Foreigners hold 50 percent
The Washington Times ^ | 2009-06-27 | David M. Dickson

Posted on 06/28/2009 12:49:29 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

In the midst of the longest, and probably deepest, postwar recession last year, the U.S. investment position with the rest of the world sharply deteriorated.

At the end of 2008, America's net international investment position was minus $3.47 trillion, the Commerce Department reported Friday. That represents the difference between the value of U.S. assets owned by foreigners ($23.36 trillion) and the value of foreign assets owned by Americans ($19.89 trillion).

At the end of 2007, the U.S. net international investment position was minus $2.14 trillion. Thus, America's net indebtedness with the rest of the world increased by $1.33 trillion, or 62 percent, during 2008. It was by far the biggest annual increase in data that go back to 1976.

Foreigners now hold nearly 50 percent of the federal government's publicly held debt. If foreign investors significantly reduce their purchase of future U.S. Treasury debt securities, without even dumping their current holdings, U.S. interest rates could soar and the dollar could collapse, analysts fear.

At minus $3.47 trillion, America's net debtor status with foreigners represents nearly 25 percent of U.S. gross domestic product, the highest level in history.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; debt; govwatch

1 posted on 06/28/2009 12:49:30 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: wafflehouse; Leisler; PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; ...
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2 posted on 06/28/2009 12:49:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
If anyone reading this still has some money left in their 401k's or IRA's, and if you are fed up with out Fedgov's quick decent into a debtor nation, I have a suggestion for you that has almost equalized my portfolio since the crash of 08.

Here it is: BRIC Index (Brazil, Russia, India, China). Other than Russia, who is solely dependent on energy, China, Brazil, and India are the new GROWING economies of the world. If you don't want to invest in individual equities in those markets, there are plenty of ETF's (exchange traded funds - much like mutual funds, but easier to buy and sell) to research.

Face it, obambi, reid, pelosi and company are determined to kill our economy in the name of fairness, while the growing economies of the world are truly spending THEIR "stimulas legislation" on internal growth. Don't believe me? - do some homework.

Again: China (which is becoming more free-enterprise as the US is going in reverse), Brazil, and India!!! Forget Russia - always have been and probably always will be unstable.

3 posted on 06/28/2009 1:14:11 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
Unfortunately we really do live in a world economy.

China and India will try to stay afloat while Pelosi etal sink us, but they are too dependent on our market for their growth.

I think there are ugly times ahead with no good options--just a lot of bad ones.


4 posted on 06/28/2009 1:25:15 AM PDT by cgbg (Lying is what they _do_.)
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To: cgbg
"China and India will try to stay afloat while Pelosi etal sink us, but they are too dependent on our market for their growth."

Actually, you are wrong. The BRIC Index (Brazil,Russia,India,China) has been looking extremely good lately because those countries are looking internally and using their "stimulas" monies to build their infra-structure, manufacturing, and services within their own borders - much like America originally did.

While I believe Russia should be excluded from the BRIC Index because they are completely dependent on oil (little manufacturing and practically no services), Brazil/India/China have other resources and capabilities and are spending their import dollars on building up their economies. China, alone, expects a 6.3% GDP this year, which is down from their usual double digit GDP . What is the US or Europe Expecting?...negative numbers, still.

I hate to say it, but those Nations are the future of World growth, and there are other nations where Western investors will help (Chile, Israel, Viet Nam, etc). Emerging market equities is where the money will be made if you do your homework. If you prefer not, there are always ETF's. Exchange Traded Funds (mutual funds) will make make money, also.

5 posted on 06/28/2009 1:54:42 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

How about a pure India fund. I don’t trust any of the others any further than I can throw them. Brazil has recently become lala land for gays, its president stating that if you think gay is wrong you have to be crazy. China will trip over itself sooner or later. And Russia, you already said it.


6 posted on 06/28/2009 2:07:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: A Navy Vet

How are the Philippines looking these days?


7 posted on 06/28/2009 2:31:50 AM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: A Navy Vet

“Face it, obambi, reid, pelosi and company are determined to kill our economy in the name of fairness, while the growing economies of the world are truly spending THEIR “stimulas legislation” on internal growth. Don’t believe me? - do some homework.”

Despite the demand from voters to kill cap and trade, the House passed it. I’m waiting on the supposedly dead bill, per Sen Inofe, to be passed by the Senate. If it is, we will know definitely what is going on at this point in our history.

I’m thinking that everything being proposed and passed that is killing us economically is being passed because our new “Masters” funding the deficit and buying agencies and Treasuries are calling the shots. We just haven’t been told, won’t be for that matter and now voting for a Representative will be just pro forma.

I think other powers are now setting American policy holding our currency and our debt in their powers.

If this is true, we will never ever find out the extent of the criminality of the banks and investment houses in this transfer of wealth and power.


8 posted on 06/28/2009 3:43:23 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: BuckyKat

They are doing good but have a lousy stock market exchange. Lots of restrictions on non-Filipinos owning certain stocks.


9 posted on 06/28/2009 4:52:49 AM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: A Navy Vet

It’s been coming for awhile. As long as we delude ourselves into the thinking that the Republicans had nothing to do with it (and that by voting for them we’ll turn things around), then we’re well and truly screwed.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 5:59:33 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: OpusatFR

Cap and Trade’s a done deal. What Goldman Sachs wants, Goldman Sachs gets.


11 posted on 06/28/2009 6:00:26 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

“What Goldman Sachs wants, Goldman Sachs gets.”

Did you see Goldman owns 10% of the Comex Global Carbon Trading xchange?

And all our lousy, traitorous, idiotic, bunch of preening media cretins flogs is celebrity garbage.


12 posted on 06/28/2009 8:25:00 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: rabscuttle385
For what it's worth, here's the press release — found at http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/international/intinv/intinvnewsrelease.htm — from the United States Bureau of Economic Analysis (more detailed information will be available in July):

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE AT 8:30 A.M. EDT, FRIDAY, JUNE 26, 2009
BEA 09-31

U.S. Net International Investment Position at Yearend 2008

The U.S. net international investment position at yearend 2008 was -$3,469.2
billion (preliminary), as the value of foreign investments in the United States
continued to exceed the value of U.S. investments abroad (table 1).  At yearend
2007, the U.S. net international investment position was -$2,139.9 billion
(revised).

   The -$1,329.3 billion change in the U.S. net investment position from yearend
2007 to yearend 2008 resulted from (1) declines in the prices of U.S.-held
foreign stocks that surpassed declines in the prices of foreign-held U.S. stocks,
(2) the depreciation of most major currencies against the U.S. dollar that
lowered the dollar value of U.S.-owned assets abroad, and (3) net foreign
acquisitions of financial assets in the United States that exceeded net U.S.
acquisitions of financial assets abroad.  The impact of these differences was
partly offset by “other” changes (such as changes in reporting panels and
capital gains and losses) that raised the value of U.S.-owned assets abroad and
lowered the value of foreign-owned assets in the United States.

   The following are highlights for 2008:

*  Foreign acquisitions of financial assets in the United States, excluding
   financial derivatives, were $534.1 billion in 2008, down substantially from
   $2,129.5 billion in 2007.  In 2008, foreign acquisitions of Treasury
   securities and foreign direct investment in the United States were especially
   strong.  In contrast, foreign residents sold more U.S. securities other than
   Treasury securities than they purchased, and U.S. banks’ and nonbanks’
   liabilities to foreign residents fell sharply.

*  U.S. acquisitions of financial assets abroad, excluding financial
   derivatives, were $0.1 billion in 2008, down substantially from $1,472.1
   billion in 2007.  In 2008, U.S. banks’ and nonbanks’ claims against foreign
   residents fell sharply and U.S. residents sold more foreign securities than
   they purchased.  However, U.S. direct investment abroad remained robust and
   U.S. government holdings of foreign currencies increased substantially as a
   result of unprecedented net drawings on temporary reciprocal currency
   arrangements between the U.S. Federal Reserve System and foreign central
   banks.

*  U.S. holdings of financial derivatives as assets (with positive gross value)
   increased $4,065.2 billion, and as liabilities (with negative gross value)
   increased $3,977.1 billion.  These large changes are mainly due to increases
   in U.S. claims and liabilities from interest rate swap contracts, caused by
   sharp declines in yields on interest rate swaps in the first and fourth
   quarters of 2008.  Because changes to U.S. assets and liabilities are
   offsetting, they have little impact on the net investment position.

*  Declining prices in most foreign stock markets lowered the value of U.S.
   holdings of foreign stocks by a large amount.  Declining prices in the U.S.
   stock market also lowered the value of foreign holdings of U.S. stocks, but
   by a smaller amount.  In 2008, prices of financial assets such as corporate
   stocks and bonds fell sharply but prices of U.S. Treasury securities and
   other high-grade government bonds appreciated, reflecting unsettled global
   financial market conditions and aggressive interest rate cuts from the
   Federal Reserve and other central banks.

*  Depreciation of most major foreign currencies against the U.S. dollar from
   yearend 2007 to yearend 2008 substantially lowered the dollar value of U.S.-
   owned assets abroad, especially the value of U.S.-owned foreign stocks.



   U.S.-owned assets abroad increased $1,609.3 billion to $19,888.2 billion.

   U.S. holdings of financial derivatives as assets (with positive gross value)
increased $4,065.2 billion to $6,624.5 billion.

   U.S. official reserve assets increased $16.5 billion to $293.7 billion and
U.S. government assets other than official reserve assets increased $529.6
billion to $624.1 billion.

   The stock of U.S. direct investment abroad at current cost increased $247.3
billion to $3,698.8 billion (see box).

   U.S. holdings of foreign securities decreased $2,590.8 billion to $4,244.3
billion, mainly due to a decrease in the value of U.S. holdings of foreign stocks.

   Claims on foreigners reported by U.S. banks decreased $410.8 billion to
$3,410.8 billion.

   Claims on foreigners reported by U.S. nonbanks decreased $247.8 billion to
$991.9 billion.


   Foreign-owned assets in the United States increased $2,938.6 billion to
$23,357.4 billion.

   U.S. holdings of financial derivatives as liabilities (with negative gross
value) increased $3,977.1 billion to $6,465.0 billion.

   Foreign official assets in the United States increased $467.4 billion to
$3,871.4 billion.

   Foreign private holdings of Treasury securities increased $245.3 billion to
$885.0 billion.

   The stock of foreign direct investment in the United States at current cost
increased $196.7 billion to $2,646.8 billion (see box below).

   Foreign private holdings of U.S. securities other than U.S. Treasury
securities decreased $1,486.5 billion to $4,703.5 billion, mainly due to
declines in the prices of foreign-held U.S. stocks.

   Liabilities to private foreign residents reported by U.S. banks decreased
$363.2 billion to $3,611.4 billion.

   Liabilities to private foreign residents reported by U.S. nonbanks decreased
$127.2 billion to $873.2 billion.

_______________________________________________________________________________
                    Valuation Methods for Direct Investment

   Direct investment at current cost is BEA's featured measure of direct
investment in current-period prices.  The current-cost method values the U.S.
and foreign parents' share of their affiliates' investment in plant and
equipment using the current cost of capital equipment, in land using general
price indexes, and in inventories using estimates of their replacement cost.

   Direct investment at market value is an alternative measure of direct
investment in current-period prices.  The market-value method values the
owners' equity component of the direct investment position using indexes of
stock market prices.

   The historical-cost method values assets and liabilities at their book value.
Country and industry detail can be shown only under this method.  Data on this
basis are not presented in this release.
_______________________________________________________________________________



                              *          *          *

                                     Revisions

   The previously published U.S. net international investment position at
yearend 2007 was -$2,441.8 billion.  The revised position estimates reflect the
incorporation of results from the U.S. Treasury Department’s annual survey of
securities claims for December 2007 and annual survey of securities liabilities
for June 2008.

   In addition to the inclusion of survey and improved source data, estimates
were revised to incorporate newly available or revised quarterly source data.
Revisions attributable to these updated source data were for 2006-2007.
Revisions to the U.S. net international investment position from all sources
were $41.5 billion for 2006 and $301.9 billion for 2007.

   A more detailed discussion of the U.S. net international investment
position at yearend 2008 and revised historical data will appear in the
July issue of the Survey of Current Business.  That issue will also contain
an article about historical-cost direct investment positions, with detail
by country and industry, and revised direct investment historical data.


                              *          *          *

   BEA’s national, international, regional, and industry estimates; the Survey
of Current Business; and BEA news releases are available without charge on BEA’s
Web site at www.bea.gov.  By visiting the site, you can also subscribe to receive
free e-mail summaries of BEA releases and announcements.

13 posted on 06/28/2009 9:48:26 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: rabscuttle385

The Oracle of Lexington proclaims: “This is not good...”


14 posted on 06/28/2009 10:12:25 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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