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Cap & Tax: Nobody Read It ... Because It Doesn't Exist
National Review ^ | June 27, 2009 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 06/27/2009 11:11:14 AM PDT by greyfoxx39


Saturday, June 27, 2009

Cap & Tax: Nobody Read It ... Because It Doesn't Exist   [Andy McCarthy]

Nobody could have read the bill the House passed last night because there is no bill.  There apparently wasn't time to pull together a finished product that accounted for the hundreds of pages of amendments because of Pelosi's headlong rush to slam this lunacy through before anybody had a chance to learn what was actually in it. So there is no "it" that all the pages and pages of words can be found "in."  Democrats have passed a concept — not a bill. 

John Hinderaker at Powerline (relying on David Freddoso at the Examiner) has the embarrassing details.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; capandtax; capandtrade; congress; fraud; hr2998; pelosi
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To: greyfoxx39
Dear America,

Thank you for expressing your adorable concern over what we do here in Washington DC, the center of your lives.

Rest assured that the very complicated and smart things we do are both quite necessary, and also none of your business. Please return to voting on American Idol, as that is the only vote of yours which affects reality.

Sincerely,
Your Royal Congress


21 posted on 06/27/2009 11:27:08 AM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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To: greyfoxx39
Democrats [and eight Republicans] have passed a concept — not a bill.

They are all self serving, lacking of conviction and overpaid dunderheads IMO.

22 posted on 06/27/2009 11:28:10 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Baynative
“Who writes this crap for these jerks?”

A lot of this thievery is written by our elected representatives staff who, in turn, are heavily influenced (AKA bribed) by Lobbyists and other influential constituencies.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if much of what has been and is voted on is not read by anyone other than the Staffers who actually compose the Bill.

23 posted on 06/27/2009 11:28:19 AM PDT by TCats
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To: greyfoxx39

I wonder now if the 8 morons from the Republican Party who voted for this bill can be talked into changing their vote since they voted for something that doesn’t exist.


24 posted on 06/27/2009 11:29:46 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: listenhillary

To be fair, he does not say in that quote that those 5 days have to be BEFORE the bill is voted on.


25 posted on 06/27/2009 11:31:11 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Always Right

MALPRACTICE
In law, malpractice is a type of negligence in which the misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance of a professional, under a duty to act, fails to follow generally accepted professional standards, and that breach of duty is the proximate cause of injury to a plaintiff who suffers damages. It is committed by a professional or her/his subordinates or agents on behalf of a client or patient that causes damages to the client or patient. Perhaps the most publicized forms are medical malpractice and legal malpractice by medical practitioners and lawyers respectively, though malpractice suits against accountants (Arthur Andersen) and investment advisors (Merrill Lynch) have featured in the news more recently


26 posted on 06/27/2009 11:37:04 AM PDT by seton89
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To: listenhillary
We will publish all non-emergency legislation to the website for five days, and allow the public to review and comment before the President signs it.

I believe "non-emergency" is the loophole here, since in Obama's bizarre interpretation of the world, virtually everything is a crisis and any legislation he wants is a response to an emergency.

27 posted on 06/27/2009 11:45:06 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: greyfoxx39
This 0bama garbage of voting on (and particularly FOR) a bill in the US House and Senate without even being allowed a good opportunity to learn exactly what is being voted on and debating it has to stop. I sent the following to both my senators a little bit ago.

Dear Senator:

I am composing this letter as a constituent and a US citizen. As you are probably aware, we are in an economic downturn that so far is paralleling that of the Great Depression. Given that alone, the last thing we need is the horrible mistake of an energy tax increase that is what the 'cap and trade' legislation that just passed the House is.

There is nothing in it to promote nuclear energy which is the only practicable 'renewable' replacement for coal and oil today. And I am too knowledgable to fall for the lies from the ignorant who are pushing wind and solar as being substitutes any time soon. Given these facts, this bill is nothing but a tax increase that will not work in any significant way to reduce dependence on coal or oil, but will only hurt people, particularly the poor. If you have a conscience, you will reject this 'cap and trade' garbage bill for that reason alone.

It shames the USA that it was passed in the House without debate and in such a hurry that nobody who voted on it was given access to the final draft or time to even read it before voting. No competent legislator would vote for a bill without knowing exactly what it contains, and if you become a thief in the night yourself by going along with this 'cap and trade' scam by voting for it without fully learning what it contains and without a debate, I will make it a point to work to have you unseated and rightly so, because you will have proved that you are not worthy to be a US Senator.

Sincerely,

28 posted on 06/27/2009 11:47:27 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: Lorianne

Bump


29 posted on 06/27/2009 11:48:44 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: TCats
The truth is, after the conference committee there will be a pair of identical bills. Ultimately what is printed and delivered to the president is the actual bill.

All of these theatrics are necessary due to the extreme complexity of the laws. I'm not defending it. It makes it possible for the intent of the Constitution to be subverted, e.g. spending bills don't have to really originate in the House, secret legislation, things which resemble bills of attainder, delegation of power, etc. The Supreme Court has have something to work with, y'know?

Ultimately this is something to take up with your CongressPerson. Voting for non-existent bills is really a serious lapse of judgment. We elected a representative, not a rubber stamp for oligarchy.

30 posted on 06/27/2009 11:51:44 AM PDT by no-s
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To: greyfoxx39

They need to be held accountable. I am getting on the phone Monday and calling my Reps to see how this happened and why.

Nancy Pelosi I hear your swan song. She should be drummed out of Congress and put in jail. I mean really in jail.


31 posted on 06/27/2009 11:53:24 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Faith
If nothing else, Pelosi should be forced to step down over this.

Why blame Pelosi??? She got those morons to vote for a bill that had only a title...She and her cronies will fill in the blank pages later...

There's something mentally wrong with the Democrats...But they seem to be far smarter than the Republicans...

32 posted on 06/27/2009 11:55:37 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: freekitty
I agree. But they know nothing will happen to them because they are dems.

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33 posted on 06/27/2009 11:57:21 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: Costumed Vigilante

Excellent!


34 posted on 06/27/2009 11:59:13 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: Iscool

No, they aren’t smarter; they are just more crooked.


35 posted on 06/27/2009 12:03:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Enterprise

Good question. I wonder if they knew?


36 posted on 06/27/2009 12:04:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty
I am getting on the phone Monday and calling my Reps to see how this happened and why.

As I understand it, the House conveniently voted to recess for a week. Everything is strategically planned to keep the common people's complaints at bay.

37 posted on 06/27/2009 12:04:44 PM PDT by Faith
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To: greyfoxx39

Yet the 8 Republicans cast a final vote for it’s final passage.

Did they or ANYONE? ANYONE? ANONE? on their staff not know what was being read by Boehner?

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38 posted on 06/27/2009 12:04:54 PM PDT by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: greyfoxx39

How can the House action be legal if they weren’t voting on an actual bill?


39 posted on 06/27/2009 12:06:21 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: greyfoxx39
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40 posted on 06/27/2009 12:06:58 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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