Getting it wrong on Iran: Obama errs with a flawed theory of international relations

WashingtonExaminer.com ^ | 6/27/2009 | Irwin M. Stelzer

[SonOfDarkSkies]

President Obama's unwillingness to provide wholehearted support for the objectives of those seeking to topple the murderous, America-hating regime in Iran has left some observers scratching their heads. But to many old foreign policy hands, Obama's tepid approach has invoked a knowing smile of appreciation for the president's foreign policy "realism."

The term "realism" as applied to foreign policy is loosely tossed around. There are Minimal Realists, Maximal Realists, English Realists, American Realists (Condoleezza Rice's self-description), Classical Realists, Neo-realists, and Neo-classical Realists. Calling oneself a realist is often just another way of claiming that you understand reality.

Nonetheless, the term has a core meaning. Realists believe that states are rational actors, all moving relentlessly and often brutally in the pursuit of their own interest, especially their interest in national security. In this system, morality has no place and should not be injected into the discussion.

Realism is sometimes referred to as "the billiard ball theory of foreign relations." As Charles Krauthammer had described the construct, nations move like billiard balls, as if impelled by an external force, and attention need not be paid to what's inside the billiard ball -- i.e., who is governing the country and how they are governing it.

Obama himself has made it clear that in what he calls the "argument between ideology and foreign policy realism," his sympathies reside with the realists. Thus, he has expressed his admiration for the foreign policy of George H.W. Bush as formulated to no small degree by Brent Scowcroft, the consummate realist.

[Jack Hammer]

Does he HAVE a theory of international relations?

[silverleaf]

It is simple. “realism”

If the devil is in charge, talk to him like an equal. He will respect that. Then you can work together in each other’s mutual best interests.

[Jack Hammer]

Trouble is, the Devil is The Great Deceiver; he respects no one and nothing.

[ETL]

Does he HAVE a theory of international relations?

Yes: Do what you can to appease the Russia-Chavez-Iran-ChiCom military alliance while dismantling U.S. national defense. BUT, you have to make it 'appear' as if you have America's best interests at heart as you're doing it (slash missile defense, get rid of ALL our nukes, give up Iraq, etc, etc).

From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:

Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad

"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
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http://www.kansascity.com/451/story/1254226.html
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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Venezuela Set to Develop Nuclear Power With Russia
September 29, 2008
CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Russia will help Venezuela develop nuclear energy — a move likely to raise U.S. concerns over increasingly close cooperation between Caracas and Moscow.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429441,00.html
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Venezuela's Chavez welcomes Russian warships
Nov 25, 2008
LA GUAIRA, Venezuela – Russian warships arrived off Venezuela's coast Tuesday in a show of strength aimed at the United States as Moscow seeks to expand its influence in Latin America. The deployment is the first of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War and was timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Caracas — the first ever by a Russian president.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22Venezuela%27s+Chavez+welcomes+Russian+warships%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

More Yahoo search results for Russia and Venezuela connections:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu_X30pZJCJEAfCtXNyoA?p=Russia+Venezuela+bombers+tanks+arms&y=Search&fr=404_news
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad

Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97KK2T00&show_article=1
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Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama

Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko

"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"

http://www.france24.com/en/20090402-russias-medvedev-hails-comrade-obama

April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090401/wl_afp/usrussiadiplomacynuclear_20090401152002

[Redleg Duke]

When you hire someone with absolutely no experience or aptitude, you shouldn't be surprised when he falls on his face.

[Yosemitest]

No. But this should interest you.

I found it.

President Barack Hussein Obama Kenya Birth Certificate by Seller colmado_naranja

Here's the Item Description:

This is auction is for a certified copy of President Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate.

President Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa in
Kenya at 7:24 PM on August 4th 1961.

I've traveled throughout the Caribbean (including Cuba), Ibero America (i.e.,Latin America), and Africa. I have a Bachelors in Sociology, a Bachelors in Social Sciences as well as a Bachelors in Afro-Caribbean Studies. I'm a collector of old Dominican and Cuban money.

I've worked in the Democratic Republic of the Congo as an advisor in the government's Hydrology & Rain Water Management Administration.

This spring I traveled through Kenya and it's capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the "iconicized" face of US President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the Club Sandwich with fried Plantains was now known as "Obama's Plate of the Day."

As an American I was bombarded with questions in english (english is the official language of Kenya) on my feelings and opinions of a Kenyan governing the United States of America. The first several times I responded in saying that not enough time had elapsed since Barack Obama's appointment as President of the USA, and that I'd have to hold my official opinion until at least January 2010, a year in office might be sufficient for me to judge his ability to govern the USA.

Natuarally I thought that by "Kenyan" they were referring to Barack Obama's blood, being that his father Barack Obama Sr was a native of Kenya. After a day and a half of my being in Nairobi I learned that they were literally referring to President Barack Obama Jr as being born in Kenya, a native of Kenya. Now I started asking questions, did his father's Kenyan blood somehow entitle Barack Jr to the equivalent of a native Kenyan? No, not all, I was to find out. They were referring to Barack Obama Jr's physical birth on Kenyan soil.

Kenyans were amused at how gullible Americans could be when it came to obvious things like the fact that Kenyans overtly admit to Barack Jr's Kenyan birth, yet the Americans continue to believe that they know better.

I delved further and found that a birth certificate was on file at The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa.

I know several American expats that reside in Kenya. I asked the three that I could reach if they were aware of President Barack Obama's Kenyan birth. All three said that they were most obviously aware of his Kenyan birth. I was shocked. They went to further say that they weren't much concerned with it, after all they'd left the US to start a new life abroad and didn't have much interest in what was taking place in the States. Besides, they said, who would believe them anyway?

Along with my Congolese brother Andylenny (brother in heart, not blood) and a 1993 BMW with only one working door I was off to Mombasa to get myself a copy (certified I hoped) of Barack Jr's birth certificate.

AND THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS WHAT YOU ARE BIDDING ON HERE IN THIS EBAY AUCTION, CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

I am not posting any photos of the birth certificate here on Ebay. I have not seen this birth certificate anywhere on the internet, to post it here on Ebay would lead to a flood of facsimiles on the internet. This would inadvertently decrease the value of the certificate as well.

In further support of I offer the facts below:

A. Barack Obama (or anyone) has never released a copy of his "Hawaiian" birth certificate. No one has ever seen it. Only a copy of his Hawaiian "Registry of Birth" or Registration of Birth" has been released to the public. Hey, I have a registry of birth as well (along with my birth certificate). It's funny how a registry of birth is not valid as a form of identification. It can't be used to verify age or identity. Just try to use yours (yes, you have a registry of birth as well) at the DOT or DMV or even at the Social Security Administration if you ever lose your SS card and need a replacement. NO ONE WILL ACCEPT A REGISTRY OF BIRTH. Yet the President uses his to verify to all of America that he was born in the United States? And hey, you might say, "What's the deal you conspiracy freak! You're just looking for any reason discredit Barack Obama." Well then, if it's not a big deal at all, then why can't anyone produce Barack's birth certificate?

B. The Barack Obama Administration, in an attempt to put the birth certificate issue to a rest, has presented the American public with a FAKE, FORGED, FRAUDULENT Hawaiian Birth Certificate in response to a growing number of the American public that have been demanding proof that Barack was born in the US. Hey, what? You say you don't believe me? Just google it! Jay McKinnon, a Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Barack Obama Hawaiian birth certificate. JUST GOOGLE IT!

Message me with any questions that you might have regarding this auction for President Barack Hussein Obama Jr's Kenyan Birth Certificate (certified Birth Certificate). I reserve the right to not answer specific questions who's answers would no doubt be wallpapered across the internet by breakfast time. I will however reply to all questions. My replies may contain specific answers, and they may not. This will be at my discretion.

If the need arises I may be contacted via telephone. Contact me via Ebay message if you believe that your question or questions merit a phone call.

International bidders are welcome.

Domestic shipping is free, international will be a flat fee of $75.00. All shipping will be insured, and overnight via USPS, UPS, or FEDEX. You pick.

HAPPY BIDDING !!!



It's a real listing on e-Bay.

[ETL]

Trouble is, the Devil is The Great Deceiver; he respects no one and nothing.

Not true. He is entirely devoted (or 'programmed') to advancing the international socialist/communist one-world agenda.

[Oldpuppymax]

All of the ink used wondering why Hussein has taken the non-committal road on Iran. Remember—Hussein will do whatever benefits HIM! He couldn’t care less about the US or the American public. Figure how doing/saying nothing in support of the protesters helps Obama and you’ll have the answer.

[Jeff Head]

AMERICANS ON FACEBOOK FOR IRANIAN LIBERTY

George Bush's legacy and fight endures in the Mid East, despite, and in spite of Obama, and THAT is Obama's real dilema.

It was George Bush's policy of direct engagement and support of liberty that has led to the people of Iran seeing the measure of freedom now established on both sides of them in Iraq and Afghjanistan...and desiring it for themselves.

Obama cannot possibly go too far in recognizing that, or he absolutely repudiates himself and his entire foreign policy.

...but Obama doesn't want to "meddle"l.

The fight in Iran goes on.

6/24/2009 - Not all fights on June 24th were losses - Iranian people take back streets from Basif

Others were not.

Eyewitness Account to Slaughter in Iran 6/24/2009

While brave Iranians are slaughtered in the street by their own government as they seek liberty, Obama disinvited Iranian officials to American 4th of July celebration.

Meanwhile, they are axing students to death.

WARNING:GRAPHIC Picture

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WARNING:GRAPHIC:

Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fVyGo7rZUI

Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaL4mA-bSY

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[Jack Hammer]

Are we talking about the president or Satan; if the latter, it’s my belief he has a somewhat more expansive agenda.

[ETL]

Lol! Sorry. I too quickly assumed you were referring to Obama. However, the agenda isn't really that too far different. Communism IS quite evil indeed, and this bum spent his whole entire life around people who were devoted to the destruction of American capitalism and the advancement of communism.

"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=